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Grue
One thing that people always disagree about is genres... When is something aggrotech and not gabber and so on... That means a _lot_ of different genres and sub-genres and a lot of differently tagged music. Would it be in someway possible to get foobar2k to 'thread' the genres downwards? Like if I search for the genre Electronica it also grabs all the sub-genre's in the querry? I know one could make a masstagger script to add a lot of extra info to the <genre> tag, but that also seems a bit over the top...

Am I way off or...?
shakey_snake
Most people tend to use a %style% tag for different sub-genres (which is frequently more than one) and then use %genre% for only the most general descriptions.
odyssey
Yes biggrin.gif You can easily do this with foo_browser (but beware, the latest version broke this ability - more in the thread).

The most annoying thing, is that it's trivial to tag multiple value tags - I've requested a simple panel to easily tag tracks here, but no dev has picked it up yet, though I was told it would be easy to code. crying.gif
Lyx
Genres are an obsolete concept. The future is influence-based (not classifying music with a single word, but instead describing various influences and PROPERTIES of it, therefore leaving absolute catagories behind as a relict of the past). And no, it doesnt even work album-based anymore.

So, looking long-term into the future you will no longer pick single genres when composing a playlist. Instead you will do a database query to define which influences you desire, and which ones you do not want. "Mood" will probably be integrated right into the concept, so that it becomes a true "property-based" system.

- Lyx
odyssey
QUOTE(Lyx @ Apr 24 2007, 14:35) *

Genres are an obsolete consept. The future is influence-based (not classifying music with a single word, but instead describing various influences and PROPERTIES of it, therefore leaving absolute catagories behind as a relict of the past). And no, it doesnt even work album-based anymore.

- Lyx

I sort of agree - I tag my music with the "energy" of a song too, and multiple properties of a song would ease the creation of playlists, though I still think that genres are important. All this still need an easy tagging solution, like I posted above.
Canar
Yeah, I just tag music with styles these days. "Dance", "Weird", "Melodic", "Acid", "IDM", "4/4 Beat"...
randal1013
QUOTE(Lyx @ Apr 24 2007, 08:35) *

Genres are an obsolete concept. The future is influence-based (not classifying music with a single word, but instead describing various influences and PROPERTIES of it, therefore leaving absolute catagories behind as a relict of the past). And no, it doesnt even work album-based anymore.

So, looking long-term into the future you will no longer pick single genres when composing a playlist. Instead you will do a database query to define which influences you desire, and which ones you do not want. "Mood" will probably be integrated right into the concept, so that it becomes a true "property-based" system.

- Lyx

i've already begun doing something like this. i have three genre tags, %genre% for the general scope of the music, %subgenre% gets more specific, and %style% describes the lesser influences in the music. i also use %mood%, %comment%, and %ensemble% tags to further describe individual songs. %mood% is self-explanatory, %comment% is for tags like "remix" or "live" or "alternate take" or something, and the %ensemble% tag is where i note if there are 'extra' instruments in the song that the band don't usually use.

for instance, in flames are a melodic death metal band, but not all of their songs fall into that description. in the song pallar anders visa, the only instruments are an acoustic guitar and a violin, and the song is folkish. so my ensemble tag reads: *acoustic.g, *violin, and my mood tag reads: folkish. before i play this song, i know exactly what to expect, which isn't death metal.
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