QUOTE(digital @ May 27 2007, 11:27)

the only way to get 'audiofools' to cease and desist once and for all would be to place them in a situation where they were:
1) In their own homes
2) Listening to their own systems
3) With their favorite music that they knew intimately
4) In a mood for listening
5) Comfortable and happy
...and get them to listen to whatever cable or tweak they choose, for as long as they choose, in whatever order they select.
That's not far from the conditions of one of the french tests about interconnects. The one of Toulouse, lead by Rorominator on homecinema-fr.com (note that this forum is the home of both subjectivists and objectivists, which allowed for blind tests to take place).
1-In his own home
2-Listening to his own system, including the tested cables (one Ecosse worth 1300 € vs a 2 € standard one).
3-With his favourite music
I'm not sure about points 4 and 5 because some other people came to take part in the test. But none of them was an objectivist come to disprove the claim. And the listening was done in time-limited ABX.
The results ? This listener got 9/20 in ABX.
Another one, among 5, was reported to have done 10/10, which was a significant score, even though it was agreed before the test that only the result of the main listener would be taken into acount (don't ask me the maths that I had to perform in order to include a posteriori an extra score, and all the statistical bias that it implies !).
However, checking the individual answers, it appeared that this was a mistake. His score was 8/10, not 10/10. Statistical bias taken into account, the probability of type I error was 25 % !
A point worth mentionning is the way objectivist deal with subjectivists. The will to disprove false claims itself acts as a brake on the realisation of blind listening tests.
A french association called
Observatoire de Zététique has an interesting way of dealing with blind tests (translation is mine) :
"In zetetics, problems are not dealt with through beliefs. We no not say 'I believe', or 'I don't believe'. There is what we know, and what we don't know. We do not substitute beliefs for our ignorance"
"If you want people to listen to you (and maybe change), you have to understand what they are talking about", says
Nicolas VivantThis approach, directed towards investigation rather than debunking, has permitted some blind tests to take place in very good conditions.
Here is, in english, the account of an excellent one, about dowsing :
http://www.observatoire-zetetique.org/dive...owsing-2007.pdf