Full Version: Nightwish - Angels Fall First
Serious problems for LAME mp3 , similar issues with AAC.
Please add version, parameters etc.
I had no problem with 3.97@V5
I had no problem with 3.97@V5
I first spotted it with 3.97 ages ago. Tested 3.98 --vbr-new. -V5~V3 [very bad, I can't handle it]. No need to abx even V2. -V1 is closer but not hard to abx.
I'm not sure I could ABX at -V3, but at -V4 distinguishing the two was not a problem (Lame 3.97).
The high open E has (what I guess is) a ringing problem.
The high open E has (what I guess is) a ringing problem.
Tried 3.97V5 on it. I couldn't hear the problem.
Then I tried 3.98b3V5 and could hear the problem easily. Pretty much the same thing I call a 'tremolo problem' on other samples.
Now that I've heard it I can also spot it with 3.97. But 3.97 is better on this sample for me.
Then I tried 3.98b3V5 and could hear the problem easily. Pretty much the same thing I call a 'tremolo problem' on other samples.
Now that I've heard it I can also spot it with 3.97. But 3.97 is better on this sample for me.
For what it's worth, I couldn't ABX it at V0, but I guess that's expected. Just had to check 
It's funny, Vorbis (aoTuVb5) have no 'tremolo problem' even at very low bitrates. Does anyone have a killer sample for aoTuVb5?
Out Of Topic. 
I'm very disappoint Anette, new lead vocal of Nightwish.
Her sound is very similar to a thousand of Grade-B Pop Singer.
I'm very disappoint Anette, new lead vocal of Nightwish.
Her sound is very similar to a thousand of Grade-B Pop Singer.
@shadowking: nice sample, but I think we cannot fix it for 3.98 release version as it would require a deeper change in LAME's PSY model with re-tuning the preset levels.
QUOTE(stigc @ Jun 5 2007, 12:11) 
Does anyone have a killer sample for aoTuVb5?
Badvilbel, from ff123's page.
ABX 16/16 at -q6 with aotuv beta 5.
Ok at -q 7.
The same with beta 4.51 / release 1
QUOTE(halb27 @ Jun 5 2007, 04:52)
Tried 3.97V5 on it. I couldn't hear the problem.
Then I tried 3.98b3V5 and could hear the problem easily. Pretty much the same thing I call a 'tremolo problem' on other samples.
Now that I've heard it I can also spot it with 3.97. But 3.97 is better on this sample for me.
3.97 vbr new is terrible. I can hear it casually through hi-fi speakers even on -v2 . abxing was easy even with speakers on a stormy night: 8/8 -v2, 7/8 -v1, 7/8 -v0....-v1 slightly better than -v2, -v0 worse than -v1
QUOTE(shadowking @ Jun 9 2007, 23:33)
QUOTE(halb27 @ Jun 5 2007, 04:52)
Tried 3.97V5 on it. I couldn't hear the problem.
Then I tried 3.98b3V5 and could hear the problem easily. Pretty much the same thing I call a 'tremolo problem' on other samples.
Now that I've heard it I can also spot it with 3.97. But 3.97 is better on this sample for me.
Then I tried 3.98b3V5 and could hear the problem easily. Pretty much the same thing I call a 'tremolo problem' on other samples.
Now that I've heard it I can also spot it with 3.97. But 3.97 is better on this sample for me.
3.97 vbr new is terrible. I can hear it casually through hi-fi speakers even on -v2 . abxing was easy even with speakers on a stormy night: 8/8 -v2, 7/8 -v1, 7/8 -v0....-v1 slightly better than -v2, -v0 worse than -v1
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