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oltraver
Secure mode is not working anymore on most brand new CDs, speed goes down to 0.0 after a few minutes. I noticed this on both my home computer and my work computer. Thing is, I can't seem to remember when it started as I hadn't used EAC for a few months, and had done some minor software and hardware upgrades to both of my computers since (not to my CD drives or EAC, though, although I may have upgraded the drive's firmware!!).

It was working fine a few months ago.

I have tried removing and reinstalling EAC, but it seem to keep some registry info that I can't find doing searches for "EAC" and "Exact Audio" in the registry.

Are there any ideas about some steps I can take to isolate the problem? Let me know if you need more info too.

Computer 1 drives:

Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-111D

Computer 2 drives:

Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-110D
HP DVD Writer 940d
StillIll
Do you have a working ASPI layer?

oltraver
QUOTE(StillIll @ Aug 13 2007, 14:24) *

Do you have a working ASPI layer?


Computer 1 is using the Nero ASPI from Radified's guide, with EAC set to 'Installed external ASAPI interface'. (wnaspi32.dll in eac directory, v 2.0.1.45)

Computer 2 is using the 'Installed external ASAPI interface (from VOB software)'

I've messed around a lot with my EAC configs trying to get this to work, what is the latest and greatest EAC config guide? I found many and have messed with them all to some extent in the process of trying to get this working. It's hard to tell which ones are up to date and which one are not.

Both systems are currently running 0.95 Beta 4.

UPDATE: Switching to Native Win32 interface makes the speed much better on one machine. I'll test the other when I get home. I was under the impression that this was not a good interface to use. Thoughts?
StillIll
QUOTE(oltraver @ Aug 13 2007, 16:44) *

what is the latest and greatest EAC config guide? I found many and have messed with them all to some extent in the process of trying to get this working. It's hard to tell which ones are up to date and which one are not.

Both systems are currently running 0.95 Beta 4.

UPDATE: Switching to Native Win32 interface makes the speed much better on one machine. I'll test the other when I get home. I was under the impression that this was not a good interface to use. Thoughts?


This guide is pretty much up to date, at least for EAC and MP3. I don't like the ogg or flac suggestions though.

http://jiggafellz.isa-geek.net/eac/

I was also under the impression that Native Win32 is not the way to go, though it's been so long that I don't remember exactly why that's the case.

greynol
QUOTE(StillIll @ Aug 14 2007, 11:32) *
This guide is pretty much up to date, at least for EAC and MP3. I don't like the ogg or flac suggestions though.

http://jiggafellz.isa-geek.net/eac/

What is written in the drive options for that site should be disregarded, and for the life of me I don't know why it bothers to show the ID3 tab when it instructs you to untick "Add ID3 tag". There's nothing wrong with letting EAC tag your mp3 files, BTW.

IMO, this is not a good site.

Regarding the drive options, here are some things to consider:

1) Burst mode with Test and Copy is perfectly acceptable. To tell people they *must* use Secure mode is wrong!

2) The caching option is not one size fits all. Performing cache flushing with non-caching drives is stupid. Let EAC determine if your drive caches audio data.

3) The C2 option is not one size fits all either. It usually is a good idea to leave it unchecked, but if you check it and use Test and Copy, then it's perfectly fine.

4) The AccurateStream option is also not one size fits all. Telling people to check it when using drives that don't have the feature is horrible advice. Like with audio caching, rely on EAC's test rather than the myths that this site is spreading.

Instead of recommending sites with incorrect information, let's work to improve the EAC wiki here at HA!

QUOTE(StillIll @ Aug 14 2007, 11:32) *
I was also under the impression that Native Win32 is not the way to go, though it's been so long that I don't remember exactly why that's the case.

What is giving people this impression???

For whatever reason, the Nero ASPI layer is beginning to give people trouble. I've seen at least three incidents of this in the last month. All of these issues were cleared up when switching to the native ASPI layer or using a different external layer such as VOB or ForceASPI.

I see no reason why people would go out of their way to install an external layer if the native one also works. Aside from the obvious issues (admin rights and external drives), I have not seen a single shred of credible evidence demonstrating that the native interface is inferior to one from a third-party when it comes to using EAC.
StillIll
QUOTE(greynol @ Aug 14 2007, 13:43) *

IMO, this is not a good site.


I'm very open to suggestions if you have a better site to recommend...."Let's make our wiki better" is a nice idea and everything, but it doesn't provide any useful information for someone looking for an EAC guide in the mean time.



To the OP: Is EAC slow only in secure mode? Are other ripping programs equally slow?

greynol
QUOTE
I'm very open to suggestions if you have a better site to recommend...."Let's make our wiki better" is a nice idea and everything, but it doesn't provide any useful information for someone looking for an EAC guide in the mean time.
...and providing incorrect information is somehow useful?

The EAC guide much better than the site you have recommended. Have you looked at it lately?

From what I can tell, the OP needs help with his drive settings and the site you listed does just the opposite.
StillIll
QUOTE(greynol @ Aug 14 2007, 14:40) *

The EAC guide much better than the site you have recommended. Have you looked at it lately?


tldnr. Needs screenshots to be noob friendly. I might come up with some later.
greynol
QUOTE(StillIll @ Aug 14 2007, 12:45) *
QUOTE(greynol @ Aug 14 2007, 14:40) *
Have you looked at it lately?
tldnr.
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Then how can you possibly say that it provides no useful information? wacko.gif
StillIll
QUOTE(greynol @ Aug 14 2007, 14:53) *

Then how can you possibly say that it provides no useful information? wacko.gif


It's definitely useful information, it's just not nearly what I'd call noob friendly. I think after a brief glance at it in its current state, most noobs' heads would explode and they'd go right back to ripping with Windows Media Player. Maybe we have different goals in mind...I'd like to see a super noob friendly EAC guide that my grandma could figure out on her own.

Perhaps I'll work on a more approachable version of the guide if I get some free time.
oltraver
Thanks guys, these guides are decent enough for my uses ATM. I'll give them a try. Still working OK at the moment with the ASAPI drivers I have, but I think I need to play with them a bit more to find out which one is really 'the best' to be using.

Thanks!

-P
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