Recently I installed my AV-710 and my songs bitrates have went all weird.
Most of my music is 320kbps but after I installed my soundcard it has shown them in my windows folders as >500kbps which isn't right but when I put them in foobar and check their properties it says they are only 200-220kbps on average. Like I said most of my music I knew for certain was 320kbps now shows very different bitrates depending if it is windows or foobar properties.
Anyone know whats up? Please help!
Full Version: What happened to my bitrate?
QUOTE (shazzam @ Sep 7 2007, 10:27) 
Most of my music is 320kbps but after I installed my soundcard it has shown them in my windows folders as >500kbps which isn't right but when I put them in foobar and check their properties it says they are only 200-220kbps on average. Like I said most of my music I knew for certain was 320kbps now shows very different bitrates depending if it is windows or foobar properties.
Don't trust Windows Explorer. It shows some weird bitrates most of the time. With VBR at lower bitrate it usually shows 320kbit in the folders. What foobar2000 shows is correct. Also you can check the files with utils like Encspot to examine the files.
Oh damn 
I downloaded EncSpot and most of them are 200-220kbps! Thanks for the info.
I downloaded EncSpot and most of them are 200-220kbps! Thanks for the info.
QUOTE (shazzam @ Sep 7 2007, 10:47)
Oh damn
I downloaded EncSpot and most of them are 200-220kbps! Thanks for the info.
I downloaded EncSpot and most of them are 200-220kbps! Thanks for the info.
About every MP3 encoder is very likely to produce transparent results at these bitrates, especially since you're dealing with modern VBR files (the old, really crappy encoders only work with CBR). 200-220 kbit/s look like LAME -V 2/-V 1 to me. Hence, why the long face?
QUOTE (Junon @ Sep 7 2007, 22:10)
QUOTE (shazzam @ Sep 7 2007, 10:47)
Oh damn
I downloaded EncSpot and most of them are 200-220kbps! Thanks for the info.
I downloaded EncSpot and most of them are 200-220kbps! Thanks for the info.
About every MP3 encoder is very likely to produce transparent results at these bitrates, especially since you're dealing with modern VBR files (the old, really crappy encoders only work with CBR). 200-220 kbit/s look like LAME -V 2/-V 1 to me. Hence, why the long face?
So this is not necessarily bad news? It's just I thought my library consisted of 320kbps albums not 200-200kbps albums
QUOTE (shazzam @ Sep 7 2007, 14:58)
QUOTE (Junon @ Sep 7 2007, 22:10)
QUOTE (shazzam @ Sep 7 2007, 10:47)
Oh damn
I downloaded EncSpot and most of them are 200-220kbps! Thanks for the info.
I downloaded EncSpot and most of them are 200-220kbps! Thanks for the info.
About every MP3 encoder is very likely to produce transparent results at these bitrates, especially since you're dealing with modern VBR files (the old, really crappy encoders only work with CBR). 200-220 kbit/s look like LAME -V 2/-V 1 to me. Hence, why the long face?
So this is not necessarily bad news? It's just I thought my library consisted of 320kbps albums not 200-200kbps albums
320kbit is definately a wate of precious disk space, compared to a variable (relatively) high bitrate that you won't be able to distinguish from the sources.
However if you don't care about bitrate, you should consider lossless an option
QUOTE (shazzam @ Sep 7 2007, 14:58)
So this is not necessarily bad news? It's just I thought my library consisted of 320kbps albums not 200-200kbps albums
In my opinion it's rather good news. Like odyssey wrote, 320 kbit/s are usually a waste of valuable space, especially if stored on portable devices. Music can't sound any better than transparent, and LAME -V 2 is generally accepted as being undistinguishable from the sources by most HA members. Certain listening tests as well as a recent poll revealed, that the latest LAME 3.97/3.98 versions even reach transparency at -V 5 (averages around 130 kbit/s - 140 kbit/s) for many people, including myself.
Oh cool, I was worried I had been collecting and listening to really inferior mp3's. Thanks guys! 
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