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Phixion

Sep 9 2007, 13:30

Hello, I am in the process of switching my music collection to FLAC and I'm trying to keep everything as neat as possible - my old mp3 collection became a mess pretty quick.

Anyway, I want to edit my cue sheets so that I can burn my renamed FLAC files instantly, without having to convert them to .wav.

My question is, can I simply change the "FILE" field to point to the correct file, e.g.

replace this:

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FILE "Jay-Z & Linkin Park - Collision Course\01 - Dirt Off Your Shoulder , Lying From You.wav" WAVE

With this:

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FILE "01 - Dirt Off Your Shoulder , Lying From You.flac" FLAC

Would that be correct if my .cue is in the same directory as my music? Do I really need to change the "WAVE" to "FLAC"?

Many thanks!

guruboolez

Sep 9 2007, 13:42

“... From You.flac" FLAC” is incorrect (non-complience with cue format).
Keep “WAVE ” even if the reference file is converted in a different format.

example:

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FILE "01 - Dirt Off Your Shoulder , Lying From You.flac" WAVE

Phixion

Sep 9 2007, 13:54

What does the WAVE bit do exactly and why should It be changed to FLAC? (I'm not questioning you, just curious)

I've succesfully edited some of the files, but this one is giving me an error when trying to open in Burrrn

[quote]" is not a valid integer value.[quote]

Here's the .cue

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REM GENRE "Rap Rock"
REM DATE 2004
REM DISCID 5105F407
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v0.95b4"
PERFORMER "Jay-Z & Linkin Park"
TITLE "Collision Course"
FILE "01 - Dirt Off Your Shoulder , Lying From You.flac" WAVE
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "Dirt Off Your Shoulder / Lying From You"
    PERFORMER "Jay-Z & Linkin Park"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "02 - Big Pimpin' , Papercut.flac" WAVE
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "Big Pimpin' / Papercut"
    PERFORMER "Jay-Z & Linkin Park"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "03 - Jigga What , Faint.flac" WAVE
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    TITLE "Jigga What / Faint"
    PERFORMER "Jay-Z & Linkin Park"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "04 - Numb , Encore.flac" WAVE
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    TITLE "Numb / Encore"
    PERFORMER "Jay-Z & Linkin Park"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "05 - Izzo , In The End.flac" WAVE
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    TITLE "Izzo / In The End"
    PERFORMER "Jay-Z & Linkin Park"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "06 - Points Of Authority , 99 Problems , One Step Closer.flac" WAVE
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    TITLE "Points Of Authority / 99 Problems / One Step Closer"
    PERFORMER "Jay-Z & Linkin Park"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 07 MODEx/2xxx
    TITLE "CD Extra"
    PERFORMER "Jay-Z & Linkin Park"
    INDEX 00 04:55:62

I check it for a stray " but can't see it, any ideas what the problem might be?

Many thanks.

Synthetic Soul

Sep 9 2007, 15:18

I would assume that it doesn't like this bit:

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  TRACK 07 MODEx/2xxx
    TITLE "CD Extra"
    PERFORMER "Jay-Z & Linkin Park"
    INDEX 00 04:55:62

I would simply try removing it.

Do you mean "not changed to FLAC"? The only valid values are MP3, WAVE and AIFF. WAVE is used in all instances other than MP3 or AIFF.

jcoalson

Sep 10 2007, 00:19

QUOTE(Phixion @ Sep 9 2007, 14:54)

What does the WAVE bit do exactly and why should It be changed to FLAC? (I'm not questioning you, just curious)

I have that same question (c.f. this bug), what's the point of this field if it has nothing to do with the actual format?

skamp

Sep 10 2007, 00:40

Cue sheets aren't a standard like XML is, for instance. It's a proprietary format introduced by cdrwin (a burning software), that just happened to catch on. Cdrwin supports only WAVE, AIFF and MP3 files as input for burning audio CDs, but since Burrn, for instance, supports FLAC as well, I bet it doesn't mind having the type set to "FLAC" in the cue sheet.

The point is, it depends on what the software supports. If it doesn't support FLAC, not only must the audio type be changed to WAVE or AIFF, the file reference itself must also point to a .wav of .aiff file. So, depending on the software you plan to use, specify either FILE "file.flac" FLAC or FILE "file.wav" WAVE. FILE "file.flac" WAVE doesn't make much sense and serves no purpose.

Synthetic Soul

Sep 10 2007, 00:48

QUOTE(skamp @ Sep 10 2007, 07:40)

So, depending on the software you plan to use, specify either FILE "file.flac" FLAC or FILE "file.wav" WAVE. FILE "file.flac" WAVE doesn't make much sense and serves no purpose.

EAC creates cuesheets using WAVE for any lossless file extension (therefore FILE "file.flac" WAVE).

As you just pointed out yourself, it's more to do with what the applications are set to do, not what makes sense or someone else deems to be valid. Also, as you say, the three "valid" values are WAVE, MP3 and AIFF - there's no point in using FLAC.

I guess the idea is that the lossless formats are actually WAVE data, just compressed... maybe.

Edit: Awful spelling! (early morning post)

greynol

Sep 10 2007, 02:28

...and FWIW, FILE "file.ape" WAVE will do something when using EAC while FILE "file.ape" MONKEY'S AUDIO won't do a bloody thing.

Phixion

Sep 10 2007, 05:48

QUOTE(greynol @ Sep 10 2007, 09:28)

...and FWIW, FILE "file.ape" WAVE will do something when using EAC while FILE "file.ape" MONKEY'S AUDIO won't do a bloody thing.

Ahhh ok I gotcha, thanks for clearing that up for me. I also think that the section at the bottom:

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TRACK 07 MODEx/2xxx
    TITLE "CD Extra"
    PERFORMER "Jay-Z & Linkin Park"
    INDEX 00 04:55:62

Is having something to do with it not working, I tried deleting a section of it but still no luck. I have one more question, If I add .flacs to burrrn the standard way (without .cue) will it still burn with correct gap settings or not?

Synthetic Soul

Sep 10 2007, 06:12

QUOTE(Phixion @ Sep 10 2007, 12:48)

I also think that the section at the bottom:

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TRACK 07 MODEx/2xxx
    TITLE "CD Extra"
    PERFORMER "Jay-Z & Linkin Park"
    INDEX 00 04:55:62

Is having something to do with it not working, I tried deleting a section of it but still no luck.

Delete the whole thing (all text above).

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