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Horello
Hi all.
I'm wonder if the procedure that i use for burn mp3 in audio-cd is correct:
1. replay-gain (album mode 89db) the mp3
2. convert them in wave file with "Win-lame"
3. burn them with Nero to teh lowest possible speed.
I'm new to this world cause I had only recently buyed a Cd-burner.
Any suggestions?
How can I improve to the max the quality of my audio-cd?
Thx.
Lev
Make sure the CD Media you are burning onto is manufactured by either Ritek or Tayo Yurden (or someone else dependable) -- and I think older versions of Nero cut off the end of wav's, but (again, I think), that is all sorted now.

Your method will provide you will absolutely excellent quality Cd's smile.gif
kumis
This is how I do it:

1. I copy all the mp3 songs that I want to burn to CD into one directory.
2. I trackgain all the songs with mp3gain to the same db, it doesnt matter the value of the db.
3. Still in mp3gain, then I "max no-clip gain for album".
4. then convert those songs to wave.
5. burn them to CD.

B)
Horello
Hmm...i'll try.
But do you use this system either for a compilation and an album?
The same way?
kumis
yup, I do it the same for both complilation and album.
liekloo
I am not an mp3 expert,
- not an expert anyhow biggrin.gif -

but replaygain also exists for MPC files, and it must be very similar for MP3.
there are two modes: an album mode (ideal for albums) and a radio mode (or title based mode, ideal for compilations). More info on the official ReplayGain page

EDIT: applying replaygain means applying the two modes at the same time (and winamp allows you to choose one of them for playback, or none of them, and you can change anytime).
But there is more to know: You can decode without preserving the gains, or do them 'take effect' (chose one of the two modes, and decode with gains - BTW this is a real choice: you can only choose one of them).
liekloo
QUOTE(Horello @ Jan 16 2003 - 04:09 PM)
2. convert them in wave file with "Win-lame"
3. burn them with Nero to teh lowest possible speed.

2. is a good idea (don't rely on Nero, do the decoding yourself)
3. is a myth. Burning as slow as possible is not a must (fast-burning might even result in less errors)
kumis
(!) for some album with songs was recorded purposely with different db, you might want to skip step 2 ( trackgain all the songs with mp3gain to the same db, it doesnt matter the value of the db). Especially for classical album.
Horello
I think almost EVERY album have songs recorded purposely with different db.
For this reason I think album-gain is the best choice.
Also if the default 89db target makes thinghs a little too quit, don't you think?
dev0
89db is even 6db over the official ReplayGain standard. If you want to turn it louder use the universal Volume Knob®...
dev0
torok
QUOTE(dev0 @ Jan 16 2003 - 04:28 PM)
89db is even 6db over the official ReplayGain standard. If you want to turn it louder use the universal Volume KnobŪ...
dev0

Yea, the problem is that if you ever have an album that is BELOW what you're setting them all to you're going to get clipping and mess everything up. 89 is good for me. I've had some old stuff (Zep, Hendrix) come damn close, but nothing has yet needed to be increased.
Horello
Good...I made some proves and these are my conclusion:
-you're right, 89db is right smile.gif
-album gain is the best way for every album
-lame rulezzz smile.gif
In my opinion, the difference is made by the use of LAME for transforming mp3 in wav.
In my system the audio quality gained using lame instead of nero in decoding mp3-wav is very high.
The result is optimal.
Thx all for hints.
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