That is correct, UE just makes sure the apropriate application is called; it frees the user from keeping track on various commandline tools.

Is it just me or does 5.5 still display completely wrong track times for VBR mp3s?

Me too. Did a system restore to get my desktop back. I thought rearranging my desktop icons was very heavy-handed. Deal breaker.

I've installed version 5.5 some days ago... no bugs at all on my system (win XP64 SP2), everything works as well as before.

The big dessktop icon rearranger hit me as well, but I hardly noticed since my desktop is a mess anyway. However, I can see why many people would be upset about this.

I tried it on XP x64 as well, but not so good... What plugin's are you running? I'm running MAD Decoder 0.15.01, the ASIO Output Plugin 0.71, CuePlayer 0.56, Enhancer 0.17, Thomsom mp3PRO Decoder 1.3, ml_icecastlist 1.0. Ya think any of these cause the problems... They work fine with 5.35 (Pro)...

I use the plain Directsound output plugin, no other stuff...

Yes, it's quite likely that these are causing your problems. I'd start by eliminating in_mp3pro - this plugin has major issues CuePlayer and Enhancer are also likely. If you figure out which one is causing the crash, let me so I can find what is causing the incompatibility.



The desktop rearrangement was a bug - not intended behaviour. It will be fixed in the next version, sorry about the trouble

Update CuePlayer plugin to 0.57c
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=256908
http://etono.cplusplus.se/cueplay/downloads.xml (site currently down)

Cue Player 0.57c mirror
http://stashbox.org/43389/CuePlayer057c.zip


And yeah, definitely get rid of the bugged-to-death MP3Pro plugin.
Winamp installer is meant to delete that anyway, so not sure how you've still got it
(you installed it again, after installing Winamp 5.5?)

MAD and ASIO plugins could also be to blame, but should be ok.... (famous last words?)
There's no real reason to use MAD any more. Nothing is better than the default in_mp3.dll ;-)

Enhancer should be ok with 16bit files
(though will bork if you've got 'Allow 24bit' enabled in Winamp > Prefs > Playback)

Sounds like a bad header, not the fault of Winamp. You can use Foobar to fix it, right click the file(s) and go to Utils > Fix VBR MP3 header.

in_mp3 patch for Winamp 5.5
http://stashbox.org/44502/Winamp55_MP3_Patch.exe

Fixes: Winamp/in_mp3 crashing or freezing on some corrupt mp3's (when playing/adding to playlist, or scanning Watch Folders, or using Auto-Tagger or Playlist Generator, etc)

______________________________________________________________


Re: APEv2 tags
We might eventually get round to implementing read support for in_mp3
(eg. a 'read-only' APEv2 tab will appear in the Alt+3 Editor).

Tried that already and it didn't help. Foobar's integrity verifier indicates correct length contained in the headers. However I just encoded some mp3s myself with 3.97 and they display just fine. The offending mp3s were downloaded from emusic.com, encoded with lame 3.92 I believe.

Any chance you have a third party MP3 plugin? (such as MAD, mpg123, mp3pro). DJ Egg has had an emusic.com account for ages. We certainly would have noticed this problem.

Anyone having problem not able to use the cd-burning function on the Pro version in this release?

In this release, the ADD, etc. button is not available. Initially I thought it was my Winamp setup that got botched during installation.

Falling back to 5.35, the burn feature is available again. Is this a known bug?

The 'Bento' skin is soooo cool , loved it absolutely.

As one of my first, and my previous fav, music player, I really want to like Winamp. But i got so much used to foobar's simplicity, elegance, and power, that as much as i try, i'm back at foobar. Maybe i'm missing something?

Is anyone able to get truly gapless playback of Nero-encoded AAC files in Winamp?

That's one downside I've also been criticizing for some time. For the moment gapless playback with Nero AAC only works by using the Direct Sound plugin's silence killer. A threshold of -40 db usually kills the gaps, though I found one specific song with a very long fade-out effect (Kamelot's "Mourning Star"), which only transits gaplessly to the follow-up track with a setting of -60 db and less.

Thanks. I think I'll be using that option from here on out...

This new 5.5 release was reason enough to try winamp again... to my suprise, winamp can't make use of the embedded cuesheets in a flac-file (the file shows up as one album instead of the tracks of one album). There's a plugin on the winamp-site (think it's called cueplayer or something) which doesn't do anything and google won't come up with an answer.

Question: How do you play your flacs with embedded cuesheet with winamp 5.5, so that all track-info is displayed?

Any help appreciated, thank you.

Tom.

Official cuesheet support is on the to-do/wishlist. I hope embedded cuesheet is the same.

I love it. I simply love it.

iTunes and foobar are now forgotten. Finally i can have my cake and eat it too!

Well yes is very impressive so far but when converting files is there a way to rename the files according to album artist tag, this would be very handy for me as I have a lot of mix collections. I have tried to put <album artist> and even <band> but no such luck

the new winamp release is really cool, and i'm one step before changing from foobar to winamp. i just wanted to ask if there's a way or a plugin to show the playlist like the single column playlist in foobar?

thnax

The first I saw statement similar to this, I though may eyes don't see well.

same here

it seems to work fine, so far

btw: i use MAD plugin, the question is: what does the
New: [in_mp3] Multi-channel mp3surround support
still work?

+

I have a 5.1 attached to an Audigy 2

will I experience any difference with the new winamp or nothing really changed..?

#1 - why do you say that there's no reason to use MAD plugin anymore?
isn't it still way better (even by ABX) than the in_mp3.dll plugin from winamp?
need illuminations

#2 - i have a 24bit soundcard so I enabled the 24bit playback


is this setting:
1-stable
2-useful
3-improving in any ABX way the playback


greetz : )

Guì

No. The the MAD plugin isn't needed for sound quality reasons any more (I don't know of any other compelling reasons left to use it either). And you most certainly cannot ABX the difference between those decoders. They should both be flawless. It is rather that the MAD plugin doesn't support the latest Winamp features like transcoding support etc.

MAD plugin supports APE tags and can display some useful info about the stereo mode used.

I have given things a spin again. I have to start with that in order to revert to 5.35 I had to scrap the whole installation (i.e. manually deleting all the install-directories) in order to get 5.35 working properly again... Encouraged by the above responses I retried WA 5.5 and afterwards I have installed one by one the plugins I mentioned above... There must have been some/or maybe even a lot of crap [from previous installs and plugins I ditched in the meanwhile] in the install directories, coz now all works fine!!!

There was a comment saying that ASIO is not necessary/usefull! I have a NVIDIA Chipset and use the NVIDIA ASIO Driver, I hardly dare to say it, but it seems better to me than the standard setup, could anyone comment?

In the Bento Skin, is it correct that it's not possible to detach the windows and move them around or is there a trick?

EDIT: Not all fine, froze after 45 minutes... Disabeling ASIO.

Yes, it is a known issue on some systems (but not all) and is currently being looked into.
You can find more information here.
Hopefully we'll have it fixed for 5.51


Is Nero AAC a gapless format by design?
As far as I know, the M4A/AAC files created by Winamp's CT AAC/aacPlus Encoder are natively gapless, so maybe you should consider using that instead ;-)
But yeah, you can use the silence/gap killer workaround in out_ds config....


I already posted this info in my previous but one post in this thread, but here it is again:

CuePlayer plugin 0.57c
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=256908
http://etono.cplusplus.se/cueplay/downloads.xml (site currently down)

Cue Player 0.57c mirror
http://stashbox.org/43389/CuePlayer057c.zip

Then go to CuePlayer config (Winamp > Prefs > Plugins > Input > in_cue > config)
and checkmark "Unpack embedded cue sheets" in the FLAC tab


Looks like you tried everything but the correct one.

<Albumartist> is what you're looking for.


Yeah, sorry about the desktop icons thing. It was a last minute implementation which was supposed to just refresh the Winamp associated icons only, but looks like everyone who tested it (including me) all had their desktop icons hidden. It'll be fixed for 5.51, along with a few other minor issues (so far):
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=156839

Re: MAD plugin

The only real benefit/reason for still using the MAD plugin is for APEv2 tag support.
As I said in my previous post, we might even be able to implement this into in_mp3 now (but it will be read-only).

The new "Multi-channel mp3surround support" is a feature of the Nullsoft in_mp3 only.
ie. you can download MP3 files that were encoded in multi-channel 5.1 surround, eg. from here
and Winamp/in_mp3 will play them in true 5.1 surround
whereas with some 3rd-party plugin like MAD or in_!mpg123 it'll just play in stereo (and if you've got CMSS or equivalent enabled in your soundcard cp, then it'll just split the stereo channels across the 5.1/7.1 speaker system).

Winamp 5.35 had true support for 5.1ch encoded AAC, WMA, OGG & WAV, but not MP3.

I'm pretty certain that there is no longer any benefit in sound quality whatsoever when using the MAD plugin.
The MAD plugin doesn't use any of Winamp's global settings in: Prefs > Playback, but in_mp3 does
(24-bit, surroundsound, replaygain, etc etc)


Correct. Bento is a SingleUI skin, ie. all windows available in one single user interface.

If you don't select media library in the installation, you should be able to have the playlist there instead of an empty library.
Something like on the old Winamp.

I really like this new skin but I hate that I can't have the playlist under the main controls.

something really strange happened with winamp.
It was working fine but now it keeps locking or crashing
each time try to play anything. I have to shut it down
with ctrl alt del. It will play maybe 200 ms then locks or crashes.
Even when it plays more,the seek bar is unavailable and
after a short time, the music starts to loop on a small segment.
It does play online radios fine though !!!
To play my files, I have to use my old classic winamp .
This is really strange because it was working fine,this
problem appeared suddenly. (I have not installed anything new
on my comp,or changed the winamp settings)

I have tried re installing winamp5.5 to solve the problem.
But it did not work. Winamp 5.5 starts and crashes instantly when I double click
on any audio files.

Fully agree with you... I DO use the ml, but usually I use the playlist...

It seems the ASIO plugin was NOT the source of the Freezes... (it froze again)...

Who's gonna make and seriously distribute these surround-mp3 if they demand special decoders. For highest compatibility there is AC-3 and AAC for low bitrates.

Yes.

Although the Nero AAC codec has become quite popular in the meantime, its gapless playback feature isn't widely supported yet. On Windows systems it's limited to Nero's own playback software, iTunes and foobar2000, while in the Linux world the situation is even worse. I can't second the claims about XMMS2 supporting Nero's gapless playback, there were audible gaps during my tests, Aqualung hasn't been tested by me so far. Xine supports the feature for a few formats, excluding Nero AAC. A bit of a pity, since I quite like the Amarok player. Same problem with Quod Libet, which relies on gstreamer.

Summary: If you guys were a bit bored, you'd make quite a lot of Nero/Windows users happy by updating in_mp3/in_mp4 to natively support Nero's gapless approach. I also wouldn't mind anyone doing the same with the xine engine.


Edit: Cut the quote a little.

Are there specs anywhere for Nero's gapless mp4 atom?

Winamp 5.5 is very sexy. And with unicode support now, I'm a winamp user again (used to use fb2k). My very first mp3 player was introduced to me exactly 10 years ago....need I say which one it was?

You and me, brother. You and me

Revised official in_mp3 update patch for Winamp 5.5 now available
http://www.meggamusic.co.uk/winamp/Winamp5...mp3_update3.exe
http://stashbox.org/52302/Winamp55_in_mp3_update3.exe

This update fixes/addresses the following issues:

-Crashing/lockups on some mp3's with corrupt id3v2 tags
-ID3v2 tag not showing when ID3v1 tag reading is disabled in config
-Reading of metadata where more than one ID3v2 tag exists
-Deleting Lyrics3 tag in Alt+3 Editor also deletes ID3v1 tag
-Handling of ID3v2 with bad version/revision #'s
-MPEG Info not showing in Alt+3 for files with large ID3v2 tags
-Support for reading ALBUM ARTIST field if TPE2 not present
-Other misc. issues, mainly embedded album art related....
-Plus: Better optimization for older Pentium Pro/2/3 cpu's

We recommend that everyone should install this patch :-)

Same here

Is Winamp trying to phase out the "lite" version? It is becoming more and more obscure with each new release on their Download page. I still love the player regardless, keep up the great work!

add another to that list

i had the exact same problem as mrbruno & antonski: winamp immediately crashed after trying to play any file with it, except for online radios, even though it was working without problems for a few weeks. i don't remember changing anything around the time these crashes started to happen. the problem then resolved itself after a winamp reinstall (no modern, bento skin support on reinstall).

i much preferred the old way of showing id3v1 & id3v2 on the same window... any way of getting this view back to cut down on mouse clicking?

Me too.
Only one thing I don't like: the way you need to use checkboxes to edit tags! Silly! Let me save clicks!

Any way to switch this extra protection off?

hi buddee
does it have 6ch aac encoder like nero aac

SOme general questions from a new user:
Is there a way to assign a shortcut to 'get replaygain'?
Is there a way to calculate replaygain to any item added to the library?

ogg replaygain doesn't work for me. Is this a known bug?

Other than that, this is the best player I've used (I'm surprised). And I'm a foobar guy.

Why was the old analyzer tied to the MP3 format (even MP2 did not used it)?

Meanwhile there's some v5.54 around...

And 5.541 was released a few days ago.

Why does it have to install Windows Media Player 10?