My playlist is 3034 songs. I would say after 10-20 songs I pick one of my ten favorite to listen to. Since the shuffle feature always plays in the same order, my playlist is effectively reduced to 200 or so songs... Is there some way to reset the order the playlist is played in, or could someone recommend a player that isn't prone to this?

The order will reset when you restart foobar2000.

use the playcounter and autoplaylist:

write into a tag the number of times the song has been played

in autoplaylist, create a playlist with %tag of times played% MISSING

when the song will be played it will be removed from the playlist and consequently don't played again.

And for your favorite songs, create another playlist apart with them and switch between the playlists

I'm not sure to be clear, but it's a way to make it..

(and when all songs have been played, erase the corresponding tag and start again)

I don't want to start a discussion about shuffle or random! In fact both of them have their advantages.
Couldn't be implemented a better way of reseting the order of shuffle than restarting foobar? I think a nice solution would be the "random" command of the playback buttons, or?

Thanks, That's good enough for me till there's a random (or just a better shuffle) algorithm.

I really miss random, hope it will come back.
The closest thing you can do is a hotkey to play a random song on demand, unfortunately not automatically.

People should learn to know the differences between the two.

Random is like a dice, any song can be played, even the same over and over, just that the chance of that is pretty slim with many songs, but possible.

Shuffle is like a deck of cards, you shuffle it and then you take one card at a time in sequential order. Means it's not possible that one song can be played again until all songs have been played. Then it starts over in same order again.

Ah, exactly the problem I registered to talk about. Sometimes you just want to listen to the same song in your 40 000 song playlist twice in the same evening, without relistening all the other songs that came between your first and second listening.

What is needed here is an option to reshuffle, both manually (press button to shuffle) and conditionally (ie: Automatically reshuffle when you manually choose a track, or automatically reshuffle when current shuffle list is ended).

I would volunteer to code it, but I haven't coded in years and I never had any talent to my programming either way. However, it seems the program already can create a shuffle list, on program start. All that is needed is the interface option that lets you call it manually, and, optimally, the interface option that lets you call it conditionally as described above. It seems like an elegant solution, no?

Apologies for thread resurrection if this problem has already been alleviated in recent by me untried beta versions, but no apologies if my post can still provide some insight into an as-yet unsolved "problem".

The 0.9.5 betas have true random play. I'm very pleased.

But true random play and shuffle with a reshuffle option are two very different things. And the shuffle permutation is already created once on start, so why not allow us to call that at will?

try foo_removeplayed

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=50312

it removes the tracks after they finish playing. in effect, your playlist will continue to shrink until you have played all your songs.

Thanks for posting the link, really needed that. Now to listen to all my songs on my playlist atleast once.