It is great that "Play" is now available as a context menu item! Now it is possible to set the default action to "Play" in foosion's Database Search without the need of installing additional components (the other features of which I would not use anyway).

This comes surprising as ever since I learned columns ui I asked myself if there could be a simpler, wysiwyg configuration method. Since the script coding madness of panels ui (no rant) foobar's gone wild for a while and possibly new-comers were distracted by the complexity, foobar's main dev now responding, reining complexness and creating a nice proportion of effective user configurability and complexity... - my gratulations!

I'm missing the ability to use different patterns for sorting and displaying in a playlist. For example, I want to sort rows by track gain. On the one hand, the unmodified string cannot be used for it because it is sorted like -10.00 < -10.50 < -9.00, so a conversion is necessary. On the other hand, the converted string cannot be used for display. This was possible in Columns UI.

I read through the 5 pages so far, and I have 2 questions:

1. Will this update be okay with my current configuration and database? I don't want anything lost, overwritten, or removed if I update. Normally I wouldn't ask, but this update seems fairly large.

2. I use Panels UI as my main interface. Does this new build of foobar add anything to that? Like, are there any new panels I can add into my config? I like the new playlist and the spectrum analyzer. Can those be added into a Panels UI interface?

I mainly want to make sure this update wont harm my current install.

Thank you .

0.9.5 should be compatible with most components. However since this is a beta this hasn't been tested thoroughly and there might be some incompatibiltity with certain components. However nothing should happen to your database.

In case of doubt simply install to a different folder and make a clean install of 0.9.5 and reinstall your needed components there.



No this version will not add anything to Panels UI since Panels UI is an interface designed by a third party and has nothing to do with the main fb2k development team. It uses elements from cloumns UI wich are not compatible with the new default UI. You can not use the playlist and the spectrum analizer to panels UI.

Normally, nothing should be lost except of the things mentioned in the upgrade notes. If you want to be absolutely safe however, just make a copy of the entire foobar folder and its configuration-file (depending on your settings, this file will be in the foobar folder, or somewhere in your windows profile folder).


PanelsUI is a 3rd party component - it is unrelated to the official components of foobar2000 and the new default UI. Panels UI is an entirely different UI than the new Default UI mentioned in the releasenotes and there is no interoperability.

- Lyx

Thank you very much for your replies picmixer and Lyx. I shall make a backup, and install the new version .

Thanks for clearing things up picmixer, I know you guys are all really good people so there was never a doubt that that there were bad intentions or anything like that. I just wanted to know/confirm that musicmusic had a means of keeping up with the latest dev info.

Loving the latest version - keep em coming

Is there a way to remove the "number of sub-items" thing from the Album List?

I've noticed that highlighting a track in the playlist (using facets) and right-clicking and selecting "tag in tagger window" does nothing. Has this feature not been implemented yet?

I love the new features, keep up the great work!

I only have one request, and its regarding the playlist view...would it be possible to have playlist specific groupings? The only reason I ask is because it would be nice to have one grouping for albums and one for singles!

I have never seen this "Tag in tagger window" command before. I think it must be from some third-party component you have installed.

after playng around a little, just a word:

WOW!

Thanks for all your work! You guys are reading my mind? All the new/different functions I've found are exactly what I was hoping...

And now, some notes.

A little visual glicht:
preferences/display/default user interface/colors and fonts : the fonts section is not aligned (win xp sp2 here, with noting special installed)

and: still no plan for different language support?

Thanks again!

No, still no plans for different language support and as stated many times before this will most likely never happen.

I think Franck's screenshot should be expressive (I wanted to delete an empty container):

Thanks.

Besides, how have you got this background graduation for the playlist ?
In future development (since interface looks like in todo list), would it be possible to have a "font service" plugin, I mean fonts which could be used by others plugins. This font service would allow others plugins to use effects like shadow, etc. I suppose I dream, but why not transparency, etc.

Edit: why changing icons ? I suppose it's because of the change and I will get used to, but for now, I rue old icons.

It comes with newer versions of cwb_hooks.

The "tagger window" is a panel, so it will not work w/ the default ui.

What about adding "Previous" and "Next" in the Properties dialog?

What about naming your motives for a proposal?

You can for example open the Properties dialog for multiple files, double-click on the field you would like to edit, and enter all values at once.

Screenshot

I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but here it goes anyway.

Is it possible to add an option for the columns to auto scale when the window is resized? If there is such an option I haven't seen it.

I'll admit upfront that it is not such a big deal since I usually set the window size and leave it like that almost forever, but I just thought it was a nice feature of ColumnsUI.

Frank Bicking sorry, I didn't know about this feature.

What does the Clean Up command in the properties Dialog do?

Please read the description in the status bar.

I got an error when I tried to convert a file to FLAC,
I'm using FLAC 1.2.1b

"Error writing to file (管道正關閉中。 ) : file://G:\Converted\01.flac"
I really don't know what it means.

Don't know if it's been mentioned, I apologize for being redundant if it has, but renaming file with the new utils component, deletes the play_count statistics.

Great new interface, btw, definitly a step in the right direction! Keep up the stellar work, guys!

Not if you use the recently released official foo_playcount 2.0.

Nice work, but isn't it possible to give all the metadata in the selection properties, so also the data that I have entered myself? Or maybe make it possible to customize this window?

Great new interface by the way

new foobar is just *AMAZING*...
ALBUMART from the tag just kicked the world's butt !!!
Fantastic player and audio file manager.

Add your metadatas to the string in Foobar Preferences -> Advanced -> Display -> Propesties Dialog -> Standard Fields. IOW it uses the same config as Properties Dialog's Standard Fields.

Is there any way to turn off albums and tracks counter in Album list ???

I noticed when you add 2 toolbar headers and restart foobar one header dissapears.

Also it's impossible for me to switch windows when foobar is maximalised. So when I want to look up something on say firefox I need to minimalise foobar before I can do this.

Great work guys

I was scared it would take me a week to transfer old layout to new foobar, but it took like half an hour.

Thanks

Coloring is what I miss in the new playlistview. If the old $rgb() will not be supported, the possibility of setting the font color for each column (in the playlist view) would be great.

BTW. very nice to have the advanced setting "thread count" for the converter. (With the availability of Quad-core CPUs the harddisk would become so stressed that there would be hardly speed gain.)

I also would like to know if it is possible. $tab() does not seams to work and I can't think of another way to do it. I would like to create a custom duration column aligned right with a * when replay gain data is missing.

Is it possible to sort groups on something else than is displayed.
I have the catalog number/ album and artist displayed but I would like to first sort on date before the rest. I also don't want the date displayed before the catalog number in the group. Is this possible? or can it be made possible?

That is not possible at the moment. Custom columns are always left-aligned. I'll add it as a known feature proposal.

Excellent. It took a couple of minutes to get used to, but the scratchbox is my best friend. I've never been more pleased with the customisation in f2k.

In order to add a toolbar header to an Element, you have to choose "Replace UI Element..." and then choose Toolbar head from a prompt titled "Replace xxxxx with..."

This doesn't seem to be the most intuitive way to add a toolbar header that doesn't replace anything, IMO.


[edit]
Furthermore, in the "Replace xxxxx with..." prompt, for the Toolbar header the description reads "Adds a toolbar to another UI Element." Which may be an attempt to clarify the above problem (although it's a bandage, not a cure), but this description causes another discrepancy: If I cut and paste an element that has a toolbar header, the toolbar header does not move and is not effected, which leads me to believe that it is actually added to the container, and not the actual element, as the description reads.

So really, the current implementation is really confusing.

Simpler solutions would be:

• Either the toolbar headers need to actually belong to the UI Element (that is move with them) and we need a separate way of enabling this separate idea,
• or they should become their own UI element outright, and require a splitter, as all other elements do.

Could we possibly have changeable buttons on the toolbar?

What is the syntax for images/resources/colour changes in the playlist?

Both already listed here.

It wouldn't hurt to actually read that before posting feature requests.

I've never tried scripting before and enjoyed the easy columns ui and album art. First thing to say, yay finally noobs can get awesome layouts as well.

Now we get to the 'problem'
I see the album art is covered as cover art. Great, no need for the album art plugin. But umm, how do configure that? I found Album art stub image path in preferences->Advanced but eh... no clue what to fill into.

The album art did great with the following script

What is a smilar script to get the cover art working?
Thx in advance.

Hirvine: Please read the album art viewer discussion thread.

Sweet release.

I'm too stupid to work out how to use the Scratchbox properly though!

+1



It's ridiculous.. Hotkeys get caught during renaming? Spacebar can't be used for PAUSE (some people use their whole keyboards for quick actions / tagging / etc :) ?


PS 0.9.5 is a good step towards becoming "not only for aliens" software :) (Btw, does Preferences/Display/DUI/Icon/UseCustomIconFromFile change anything?)
But it will never reach power and popularity until it is (core that sits between db/ui/output) is really flexible (any UI, any "SQL" db) and friendly (LUA scripting) enough.

Yes a great release, certainly the way you can change the layout of the UI is a good idea, but I'll stick to panels, also the file renaming/moving/copying feature has been reworked and is quite hard to get to grips with the first time you use it. I had a few crashes when viewing album art but it seems fairly stable.

Thanks foosion, I haven't notice the thread somehow.

First of all, thank you for your work!
I only have one question. When i add a folder to my playlist it appears a window with "Processing Files". Is there any way to disable it? Thank you very much!

Hm.. that window is there for ages. I think it is nice to see the progress as it reads file tags. What else do you expect?

If your file paths are withing the paths that are configured in your media library preferences this will not happen the second time you add them. Since the metadata will be stored in the media library and therefore fb2k will not have to read it from the files again. This has always been like that and is not new in the beta.

That setting is contained in an group box labeled "System Notification Area"; coincidentally it changes the icon in the notification area.


I find your sentence structure and curious use of punctuation a bit confusing, so I am not quite sure what exactly you mean. foobar2000 has had a modular structure from day one; the ability to use a different user interface module has existed since 0.8.* (or even longer, I am too lazy to check). Scripting would be a powerful addition, and I personally like Lua* for this purpose, but as it is users with no prior programming experience have already enough trouble when dealing with non-trivial title formatting scripts, so I do not think that "friendly" is the right word there.

*) The proper capitalization of "Lua" does not use all-caps; it is not an acronym.

I immediately liked the new Default UI a lot, but after using it for about a week now, I have couple of things I'd like to say.

A) This is an easy one and it's probably coming for the next version anyway, but I couldn't quickly find anything mentioned about it. What I'm missing is the ability to change font sizes more accurately. I'm using a remote control and I'm not always in front of the computer when I'm skipping or rating a song. It'd be nice to see the current song more further away and so far I've managed to set up this layout with two ridiculously looking playlist views: foobarDUI.jpg

B) I was really excited to see the new kind of spectrum. The way it shows how the song is played is something I've been looking for as a visualization since I played around in CoolEdit back in '67 or so. But the bad thing is that it goes the wrong way! It shows the history, what has been played already. What I'd really like to see, is the future: "Oh man, listen to this guitar solo, see, there it comes!"
(Not like "Oh man, did you hear that guitar solo? See, there it goes..? What do you mean you missed it!?")