radio_cascara
Oct 24 2007, 16:44
i have similar problem, i used "track display panel" for large artist-title captions and additional info. that's one thing i really miss in current default ui (others are lyrics display, bookmark capability and some small tweaks). i would like to see it alongside with current "selection properties" element.
as for spectrum, i don't agree, it works just the way every spectrum is supposed to work. it is one of the reasons i can't drop 0.9.5 beta and downgrade. it gives you possibility to spot transcodes right in your player and that's essential for me, i've been trying to get something like that for years

it has some minor tweaks that should be adjusted, like default background color that isn't set on start-up but on beginning of a draw, so you have scrolling rectangle until it fills with your chosen color.
qwazi7
Oct 24 2007, 18:21
The one gripe I currently have with this interface is my seeming inability to remove the orange highlighting on the tabs. I've linked to a picture for more clarification.

Relatively minor complaint all told, but still something that I feel should be changeable (and probably is, I'm just not sure how to.)
foosion
Oct 24 2007, 18:27
QUOTE (qwazi7 @ Oct 24 2007, 19:21)

Relatively minor complaint all told, but still something that I feel should be changeable (and probably is, I'm just not sure how to.)
You have to change your visual theme in Windows for that. There is not - and will not be - and option for this in the Default User Interface.
What is "selection properties" supposed to do? I can't rename tags in it, should I? (it starts to blink as if I would be able) It would be great to be able to do that.
Another possibility would be to have links on everything so that if you double-click on the artist for example, the playlist would fill up with everything else in your library from that artist. Just an idea.
Nice to see an option to set additional directory for Wavpack correction files.
But I can't make to work a directory with variables, eg. d:\correction files\%artist% - %title%
Stingrey
Oct 24 2007, 20:57
I really like the new design, great job.
But I have a little problem with %bitrate% column!
All my CD rips are mp3 VBR, but the bitrate in the column doesn't gets updatet during the playtime.
Under "advanced" the VBR bitrate updates per second is set to 2.
Changing the value doesn't help.
eejadx
Oct 24 2007, 21:06
^^
The default UI does not support dynamic information such as vbr bitrate or playback time. Only the status does.
QUOTE (sylla @ Oct 24 2007, 13:31)

What is "selection properties" supposed to do? I can't rename tags in it, should I? (it starts to blink as if I would be able) It would be great to be able to do that.
QUOTE (0.9.5 beta 1 release notes @ http://www.foobar2000.org/releasenotes-095/releasenotes.html#new_default_user_interface)
The Selection Properties element displays information about the selected tracks similar to the Properties dialog though it does not allow tag editing.
... unfortunately.
Edit: Just out of curiosity, is there a specific reason why it is not allowed to edit tag entries from Selection Properties Element? Security I guess? Having an Element version of File Properties Dialog would push a step ahead foobar as the perfect tag editing tool in my opinion.
wanted
Oct 24 2007, 21:41
When i start foobar the seekbar slider does not appear until i play a song.
Congratulations for the new release. I have been fooling around with it and it really is very easy to configure with very little titleformat editing. Really powerful.
I have some observations/questions:
1. The components page says that Autoplaylists and Masstagger are "deprecated components and that similar functionality is available on other still-mantained components". To which components do you refer? I cannot mimic their functionality with the current beta, specially masstagger scripting for entire playlists and creating autoplaylists.
2. Is there any easy way to search a playlist (former playlist_search functionality)?
3. There seems to be a bug in the components preferences page when you scroll the list down:

WinXP with a 19' monitor 1280x1024px
Mikus Rakis
Oct 25 2007, 02:18
1) autoplaylists can be created using
*album list - right click on nodes, or enter any query you need in filter box then right click all top node
*facets - right click on anynode you need
for mass tagging - sselect multiple files, go to properties window, right click in various places
2) tried pressing F3
alphaex32
Oct 25 2007, 04:19
A few requests:
-A "Now Playing Properties" panel along with the Selection Properties panel (or the ability to switch between now playing/selection mode). This would be useful for quickly getting info about the currently playing song without having to change the selection.
-Ability to edit tag info directly in the properties panel, just like you do in the properties window (but maybe have a confirmation dialog or the option to turn editing off to avoid accidental changes).
-Next/Previous buttons in properties dialog. I know this was asked for already and didnt get a good response, but I really do find myself wishing they were there. Ive been retagging my collection, and it would be really convenient to be able to scroll through songs in the properties window to check for errors and make quick fixes. I know about the "edit individual values" feature, but in most cases this is a hassle and I've nearly screwed up tags several times by not having songs in the right order.
Also, why are there no custom button toolbars? Wasn't this a standard default UI feature (or am I thinking of columnsUI)?
shakey_snake
Oct 25 2007, 08:28
Yep. It would be easier to create, and the only difference would be that your playlist would have a Header.
Moderation: Removed unnessecary image quote
vasya_pupkin
Oct 25 2007, 09:15
QUOTE (shakey_snake @ Oct 25 2007, 10:28)

Yep. It would be easier to create, and the only difference would be that your playlist would have a Header.
Phew..

Thanks.
QUOTE (vasya_pupkin @ Oct 25 2007, 15:15)

QUOTE (shakey_snake @ Oct 25 2007, 10:28)

Yep. It would be easier to create, and the only difference would be that your playlist would have a Header.
Phew..

Thanks.
Remember that you will lose the ability to color text strings inside the new playlist element.
Martin H
Oct 25 2007, 11:36
QUOTE (beto @ Oct 25 2007, 03:02)

1. The components page says that Autoplaylists and Masstagger are "deprecated components and that similar functionality is available on other still-mantained components". To which components do you refer?
The deprecated masstagger component has now been replaced by the improved properties dialog, Quick Tagger(optional official component) and the 'File Operations' component in the installer, which isn't installed by default.
Hello, thank you very much, new foobar is awesome (as always).
Is there some possibility that in future foobar`ll play last.fm stream radios? Like amarok does.
aharden
Oct 25 2007, 19:52
I love the new release and the Facets plugin and this is the first time I've been insprired to build a new config from scratch in a long time. Thanks guys.
szczepl
Oct 26 2007, 06:24
Amazing version!
Now it's time to remove old Columns UI and no longer developed Navigator theme.
I'm impressed!
Two things:
- spectrum miss scale of measuring, I don't know if it is 16 kHz or 20 kHz? I don't know if some ape is really ape file (full spectrum to 20 kHz), or for example fake ape (made from mp3's) (spectrum to 15-16 kHz)
- the preview of scripts should be one tab or stand alone editor with BIG and not narrow preview pane. many preview panes of scripts are to short to display full results of my complex scripting, also editing pane is to small at i.e. converter scripting, file operations scripting, and so on... consider it in full version, PLEASE !

all other is BRILLIANT
mourner
Oct 26 2007, 13:37
Don't know if this was requested before, but:
When scrolling panels with mousewheel in 0.9.5 beta1, the active panel scrolls instead of the one that is under mouse pointer - this is very inconvenient and I guess this could be considered as a bug, since other popular software for Windows usually behaves differently (scrolling the element that is currently hovered)
Please add it to the list of requests or open issues.
picmixer
Oct 26 2007, 15:03
QUOTE (Jipcy @ Oct 26 2007, 15:43)

I am looking forward to messing around with 0.9.5 when it comes out of beta. Easier configuration and fewer external plug-ins equals good to me.
There are absolutely no real serious issues known in the beta (certainly not if you only use offical components), only a few small quirks maybe that mainly affect a few tiny UI glitches. You definitely don't have to worry about it messing with your system or your files in any way.
So feel free to have a look in case you are curious. Up to you of course since I con't want to talk you into anything that you don't want. Beta software is to use at your own riks of course, but I really believe there is nothing to worry about.
mourner
Oct 26 2007, 17:59
Another small thing I would be very grateful for is an option to disable row alteration in playlist view. As I understand, currently there is no way to get rid of it.
And one more: option to set middle-click action in playlist view (the same as it is done in albumlist). E.g. I don't use autoscroll and would like to set it to "Add to playback queue".
Signal78
Oct 27 2007, 20:29
I'm having two issues--which may be related:
1) If there is an album selected--and the tracks are displayed in Playlist--the Clear command is not functional (grayed out). Or....if I highlight the Tracks the Remove command is not functional.
Only way to clear is using 'New Playlist'.
2) If I attempt to play a new file (not in library) by clicking it, Foobar will start but--if there are items already sitting in the playlist--Foobar will not clear them and play the file. Foobar opens, I get a brief 'Please wait' pop-up....then nothing.
Mark
shakey_snake
Oct 28 2007, 06:02
Are there any plans to make he new play-cut-copy-remove-crop context menu items removable via prefs->Display->Context Menu like all the other context menu items?
If no, then why not?
Frank Bicking
Oct 28 2007, 09:59
Those items are playlist-specific, while commands listed at Preferences, Context Menu appear in multiple controls, like Album List, Facets, Playlist Manager, status bar, notification area icon, etc.
stampgevaar
Oct 28 2007, 14:09
Can it be made possible that when you click the status bar you can see a volume slider like the previous default interface? I liked this option better because I don't use it that much so I don't like to have it on screen but when I use it it should be easily accessible.
Frank Bicking
Oct 28 2007, 14:10
Right-click on the status bar, enable Show Volume.
The Link
Oct 28 2007, 14:11
QUOTE (stampgevaar @ Oct 28 2007, 15:09)

Can it be made possible that when you click the status bar you can see a volume slider like the previous default interface? I liked this option better because I don't use it that much so I don't like to have it on screen but when I use it it should be easily accessible.
Right click the status bar > Show volume
Comwan
Oct 28 2007, 17:15
Hi,
one thing I'm bother about is the next command. In previous versions it either took the next one in the playlist or, if the mode was in shuffle, took the next random track. Now it always takes the next one on the playlist whether or not the play mode is shuffle or default.
So now, next isn't as useful as before. I now must have two keys for going the the next song, one for next on the playlist and one for the a random song, which is annoying
Is this intended (I guess it is)? Or just an anomaly?
Greetings,
Cease
Laemtao
Oct 28 2007, 17:15
So far I really like the new release. Memory consuming UI plugins are no longer necessary.
I have a couple of small feature requests, though:
1) In the Album List, can "auto-collapse on expand" be implemented like in the ColumnsUI version?
2) The new file operations interface is excellent! Can the converter be redesigned to work this way too? It would be nice to be able to use presets for various converter settings.
Thanks for this great release, and your time.
I'd like to see copy feature in future versions. Sometimes I need to copy list of my songs or just single song or selected songs to txt file etc.
I couldnt also find option that would let me modify duration column. I used to have similar formatting to this example:
Not playing - [3:00] (will just show time of song)
Playing - [1:02 / 3:00]
The statusbar is updating in wine with beta 2, before I had to minimize and restore the foobar2000 main window to get it to update.
Thank you. I know you didn't fix it for wine especially and you probably don't care for it, my guess is you did it for improved usability with screen readers, but still thank you.
It wasn't such a big deal for me and I'm certainly not going to start posting bugs that only appear in wine.
Keep up the good work, we appreciate it.
dubpistol
Oct 28 2007, 21:31
QUOTE (Efrin @ Oct 28 2007, 19:20)

I'd like to see copy feature in future versions. Sometimes I need to copy list of my songs or just single song or selected songs to txt file etc.
You can bind a keyboard shortcut to this. Preferences > General > Keyboard Shortcut > Filter for "copy name(s)".
Chaser
Oct 28 2007, 21:33
I get this crash (picture) as soon as I press some times the next-song (random) button. I already deacitvated quite some components, but had no success yet, finding the culprit.

edit: Problem seems to be gone after updating foo_uie_albumart (http://cherans.bol.ucla.edu/fooplugins.html)
Audio N00b
Oct 28 2007, 23:06
Man this is so great!!!
Just today I was gonna finally give a go to ColumnsUI but before that I decided to check for new versions and this comes up

Now I don't have to use ColumnsUI, love the fact everything seems to be getting centralized instead of having to rely on a lot of 3rd party components.
the only thing I don't like is the fact album art is "fixed" completely so you can't roll your own filters for the AA component to find it

I guess I'll have to rely on some 3rd party component that supports regex.
aurelio
Oct 29 2007, 00:53
Why is the Copy command formatting string deprecated?
It's very difficult to edit in the Advanced preferences page now.
aliendesaster
Oct 29 2007, 01:00
QUOTE (aurelio @ Oct 29 2007, 01:53)

It's very difficult to edit in the Advanced preferences page now.
Yes, albeit those settings won't be changed everyday, structuring of navigation is overdone, not so well arranged anymore ihmo.
NullString
Oct 29 2007, 04:15
I've read the changelog but couldn't find the changes of the 0.9.5 Beta 2.
I found that the Spectrum now displays the channels correctly without the garbage at the top.
Now I realize that maybe the changelog hasn't been updated yet.
shakey_snake
Oct 29 2007, 06:09
Focus question.
Why doesn't clicking on a tab give focus the the Element contain within that tab?
e.g. this is my layout:

Say I have focus on my playlist. and by sidebar is currently o9n the playlist tab, like shown in the above pic.
If I click the albumlist tab, then move the mousewheel, I am expecting the albumlist element to scroll as it is the only thing in that tab. Instead, the playlist scrolls.
I remember Peter mentioning in IRC that the way the Copy command is handled will be changed in the not-so-distant future. It's only in Advanced for a little while until he decides where to place it.
foosion
Oct 29 2007, 11:44
QUOTE (NullString @ Oct 29 2007, 05:15)

I've read the changelog but couldn't find the changes of the 0.9.5 Beta 2.
I found that the Spectrum now displays the channels correctly without the garbage at the top.
Now I realize that maybe the changelog hasn't been updated yet.
Please see
known issues and feature proposals for the changes in beta 2.
QUOTE (aurelio @ Oct 29 2007, 01:53)

Why is the Copy command formatting string deprecated?
It's very difficult to edit in the Advanced preferences page now.
The copy command string happens to be part of a deprecated API. There is no plan to get rid of the "Copy Name(s)" command as such; on the contrary it is likely that there will be an improved version of this command some time.
Album List auto refresh when Media Library content changes.
How does this work..... when I change a directorys name via windows explorer, does album list automatically know, a directory has been changed? Or do I have to rescan media library?
Thnx
Media Library content changes when you rescan it.
SmilerSmiles
Oct 29 2007, 16:22
Hey there guys. I just did something really stupid. I opened my old foobar version and when I opened the beta all my playlist names had fubar'd. Is there anyway to get the old names back? Or should I just start again. Most of them were autoplaylists so even if I get the names back they won't update right?

I hope that pics not too big if it is heres the thumb
shakey_snake
Oct 29 2007, 17:20
QUOTE (shakey_snake @ Oct 29 2007, 01:09)

Focus question.
Why doesn't clicking on a tab give focus the the Element contain within that tab?
e.g. this is my layout:

Say I have focus on my playlist. and by sidebar is currently on the playlist tab, like shown in the above pic.
If I click the albumlist tab, then move the mousewheel, I am expecting the albumlist element to scroll as it is the only thing in that tab. Instead, the playlist scrolls.
OK, more focus confusion.
Say I have focus on my playlist. and by sidebar is currently on the playlist tab, like shown in the above pic.
If I click on and even drag the
scrollbar of the playlist manager, then move the mousewheel, I am expecting the playlist manager element to scroll. Instead, the playlist scrolls.

How doing that not give the element focus?
Alexxander
Oct 29 2007, 18:26
QUOTE (Martin H @ Oct 25 2007, 12:36)

QUOTE (beto @ Oct 25 2007, 03:02)

1. The components page says that Autoplaylists and Masstagger are "deprecated components and that similar functionality is available on other still-mantained components". To which components do you refer?
The deprecated masstagger component has now been replaced by the improved properties dialog, Quick Tagger(optional official component) and the 'File Operations' component in the installer, which isn't installed by default.
In 0.9.5 beta 2 I can't figure out how to tag music files using filenames and filepaths and a pattern like for example:
%artist% - %album%\%track% - %title%
Quick Tagger can't do it and File Operations is just the opposite (rename/move files based on tags instead of tagging based on folder and filename information). Neither do I see a way to achieve it using the Properties command. In former versions this was easy to do right clicking on selection.
Thx for clearing up.
And: Congrats for making fb2k better and better (and that's hard!) and keep it free
LXtreme
Oct 29 2007, 18:45
QUOTE (Alexxander @ Oct 29 2007, 19:26)

In 0.9.5 beta 2 I can't figure out how to tag music files using filenames and filepaths and a pattern like for example:
%artist% - %album%\%track% - %title%
open the properties (metadata-tab) and you will find an entry "automatically fill values" in it's contextmenu.
by default the source is "file names". change it to "other..." and enter %path% instead of %filename%.
now your pattern should work!
(at least it works for me)
Frank Bicking
Oct 29 2007, 18:50
Using %path% would mean that you would have to specify the whole path to the file in your pattern (e.g. C:\Music\%artist% - %album%\%track% - %title%).
In contrast to that, you only need to specify parent folders with the "File Names" source:
%artist% - %album%\%track% - %title%
Works fine for me.
By the way, guessing tags from the filenames (edit: in the Properties dialog) is not a 0.9.5-new feature, it has been possible since 0.9.3 (July 2006).
LXtreme
Oct 29 2007, 18:58
QUOTE
...you only need to specify parent folders with the "File Names" source...
LOL...ok, that is easier, of course. :-D
did not even try it as the expression "filename" does not naturally include the folder....but good to know it works though!
QUOTE
Using %path% would mean that you would have to specify the whole path to the file in your pattern
...works just with parent folders, too (obviously %path% and %filename% are not interpreted the way we expect them to)
Alexxander
Oct 29 2007, 19:25
The "Automatically Fill Values" is the trick thx. The most obvious or natural place to look for the option of tagging based on filename and path is in the rightclick menu "Tagging", as it was in v0.9.4.5, at least for me and I think for most people is.
richard123
Oct 29 2007, 23:05
If I click on a group header, all of the songs in the group are highlighted. If I then hit the page up key, it takes me to the top of the playlist instead of up one page. Is this a bug? 0.9.5 b1 and b2, default UI
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