Thanks for reporting. The issue is beeing looked into at the moment.

Edit: Fixed for upcoming beta 3.

Hi,

Adding/enqueueing files in foobar 0.9.5 beta 2 causes a crash. This is reproducable with multiple different mp3s and flac files. For some reason I have one mp3 that works and enqueues and adds fine...

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EDIT: Never mind! Updating the foo_ui_albumart component fixed the problem. I should have read the thread first.

I've browsed the topic here, but didn't find answer (or I just didn't saw it). I can't show console, cause when I'm doing that it just pop-up the window, but with a message 'Could not initialize console: Service not found' instead of standard console communicates.

Looks to me like you removed the new foo_ui_std.dll or are running with the old one.

Hm. I can't seem to find two things after upgrading:
- The playlist cut/copy paste options. The changelog says they are integrated to the core now; however, I can't seem to find them. When searching for strings under the keyboard shortcuts option, "Cut" and "Copy" only come up for layout options.
- Copy Info between files. This was a handy method of copy tags from a tagged album to one that was yet untagged. It's a part of the masstagger, and I don't see a simple to use function in the new file operation dialogs.

I've updated foo_utils as well.

Ctrl+X and Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V
They are also in the Playlist's context menu.

The Properties dialog has been better at this than mass tagger for a long time.

0.9.5.(b.2) - brilliant! Thanks to all developers!
Now just half an hour configuration instead of days...

Wishes It would be good to see in final release option "Stop after queue" and ability to assign keyb. shortcuts for DSP Manager presets. And maybe one crazy visual option: "Load random color scheme at foobar startup"

When I filter the list for the keywords "cut" or "paste", I can only find options related to the layout. Theres a "copy" option, which describes itself as "Copies selected tracks to Windows Clipboard", but I can't find neither Cut nor Paste.


Is there a way to do it that doesn't involve opening multiple properties boxes? The masstagger one was compact, fast, and effective, and all it required was highlighting files next to each other, in order.

Edit: Another minor thing. I see it is now possible to set the number of work threads for the converter. Very handy option, since in dual core machines, you can now force 1 threads, which improves speeds when working with files on removable media (such converting files form a DVD).
However, forcing 1 work thread is a regression when I'm converting files from my HD, which can handle multiple simultaneous reads.
Would it be possible to set up the Converter so it uses 1 thread when converting from cd/dvd/drive number "x", and 2 threads on my hard drives/drive number "y, z"?

One thing i would like to see in a future version of foobar is the possibility to rightclick in the album list and select "delete from library" or something similar.

Edit: Sorry, i did not mean spam the forum. i understand that my question is not related to the beta testing
And thanks for pointing me in the right direction Frank

Cut/Copy/Paste commands cannot be assigned to custom keyboard shortcuts.

They only work in certain elements and are hardcoded to Ctrl+X/C/V (i.e. the Windows standard shortcuts).


No, but the solution is still fast enough, and you get a proper preview of how the tags are going to look like.

Select the source files, open Properties, select all fields (Ctrl+A), copy (Ctrl+C), then open Properties for the target files, and paste fields (Ctrl+Shift+V).


How is that related to 0.9.5 beta testing? Please do not spam this thread with random proposals.

And actually, it's already possible. Just add the "Remove File(s) from Library" command at Preferences, Display, Context Menu. Note that these files are going to be readded as soon as you rescan the library or add them to a playlist. If you want to physically delete the files, use File Operations, Delete Files. This requires the File Operations component which has to be selected manually during setup.

Does that include selected tracks in the playlist, because it doesnt seem function that way. It was something I used very, very frequently.


I know its possible to do it, but as I pointed out, opening multiple properties boxes is much slower.
Anyway, I still use the masstagger so its a moot point.

Yes, it does. You should also see the commands in the context menu. If that is not the case, then you don't use the Default User Interface.

That seems to be the case, as I use Columns UI. Any idea how can I reimplement it? It's one of my most often used shortcuts...

edit: nevermind, it seems to be a foo_utils issue. I downgraded it to the last 20070125 version, and the commands are back.

edit2: Some problems I noticed in the default uis custom playlist views. It is used for the search dialog (Which I custom mapped to ctrl+f under columns ui). The problem is that it does not override keyboard shortcuts like it used to do (and as every other panel does). So for example, if I have the Spacebar mapped to play/pause for quicker controls, I cannot type search strings with a space in them. It will instead pause the song as I attempt to do so. I realize that Foobar even warns me to not add common keys as shortcuts, but other then this new search window, I've experienced absolutely no issues.

This also makes it impossible to copy/paste phrases from notepad for example, as ctrl+v is mapped to playlist paste. Both of these issues exist using the default ui as well as columns.

And while I'm talking about the new search panel... It is not configurable under columns ui, the config page drops to the blank "another user interface is active" page.
Furthermore, quotes have no effect. Searching for "Dust and" will hit everything that has both the words "Dust" and "And" in them, instead of just dropping back the track that has the exact phrase "Dust and". I seem to recall this working fine in older versions, making it a regression.

edit: problem fixed

It'd be nice to see the option to disable multiline tabs in favor of left/right buttons.

oh hell, i'm really longing for a linux port

i tested it on xp, but the annoying thing remains: when i upgrade foobar (eg. uninstall prev version and install the new one) my preferences are lost (the config files are removed from application data), so i had to set it up every time a new version comes out. WHY?

Just install over, no need for uninstalling first and you can keep your configuration.

hell yeah, should be obvious to me, but it just doesnt always work this way. the installer may notify me that it will be a clean upgrade not some copy-over stuff

The new file-edit dialog is really great. Filecopy/move-dialog is also a great improvment. I first though: "Oh my - a lot of work to get it working the way I used to do it with masstagger" - but hey: brilliant!

I have little suggestion for the dialog: Could we get a drop down-history for the upper field too?



It moreover would be nice, if the size would be saved. The dialog is too little.

Common practice is to backup both your settings and foobar folder before upgrading.
Or do it manually using 7zip, open the installer and overwrite appropriate files.

Foobar 0.9.5b2 is great, but there are some basic things that are missing IMO. It would be awesome if we could have the features of "album list panel" inside album list. I'm talking about basic features like the album view playlist with "auto send to playlist", that shows immediately the contents of the folders that are focused inside the album list.

Also, album art viewer doesn't show the contents of the focused items inside album list. It only shows the cover of specific focused tracks and not entire albums too, as it should be. Except the above two missing features, i found that when i am in "Layout Editing Mode", i can't delete a UI Element but only cut, copy or paste it. It would be veeery useful if you add the option to delete UI Elements when anyone wants. I'm sure that i'm not the only one who needs these features, because they are very basic and important,so please if you can, consider adding them.

Except the above basic things i think that it would be very good if we could change the playback buttons with our "button kits". This could improve a little the UI. Also, inside the playlist, when we group by artist date and album, it could much more readable if artist and album/date were in different lines, because when album or artist names are long, its easier for the eye to recognise quicker the album title or the artist name (because they are in different places and not the one after the other). I believe that this saves time, and make playlist more organised.

Thank you very much for this great program!I'm going to miss UI Panels a lot, but i believe in easy and flexible design of the new Foobar.

Hi, was wondering if tagging features; manage scripts, and auto tracknumbers, are gone? Am I over looking these? Thanks.

herefornow

Tagging features can be found in the Properties dialog (right-click on a selection, Properties), including automatically setting track numbers and total tracks (right-click, Auto Track Number), filling values from the file names, formatting fields by means of titleformatting, capitalizing values, and so on; all in the context menus of said dialog. There also is a new Quick Tagger component to set predefined values from the context menu or with keyboard shortcuts.

The Masstagger is no longer developed. It has been removed from the setup and is available at the "Optional components" site as a deprecated component.

Is it possible to process files per 'Automatically Fill Values'-pattern directly by context-menu or at least keyboard-shortcut, comparable with the masstagger-scripts ?
The 'Automatically Fill Values'-panel is nice and has some nice options, but sometimes you want to go the direct way, without click, click, click, click. At least 2 clicks and to much selection on the way IMHO.

Thanks Frank, appreciate the help. Really searched before I asked, looked right past it! This version is working fine for me.

cheers,
herefornow

I'm really impressed with new UI and components. Finally changed from old-customized Navigator theme to something new. Organizing music is so much nicer now.

Besides of what is mentioned in feature proposals thread (colors, tabs, alignment, spectrum options are the most important for me) I dare to suggest a few other things:

- $caps2 feature in properties window
- Selected files count in statusbar (if playlist is long, there is no easier way to tell if what we see as selected, is all that its really selected)
- Would be nice if double clicking on row generated by grouping scheme (in playlist) could call properties window (or possibly be configured to anything else), now it plays first track from this selection (pointless IMO as the same can be achieved by double clicking one line below)
- In selection properties element - could there be added option to disable display of caption? In my case, this component is set up that each information (Metadata, Location etc) is displayed in its own tab - so the same information as in caption is already in tab name.
- Now its hard to include all information in grouping scheme, for me perfect would be: album artist, year, album, genre, AG, totaltracks for full information. I wish that there could be added second line to grouping scheme, preferably with smaller font.
- Borders for collumns

a (not small) feature request :
can see the album art in the playlist, like in Windows Media Player or in foo_ui_panels.

It would be very nice (and i think its also very easy to implement) if we could add a resizable space in the toolbar (like the one in the Firefox toolbar - only more precise). This would help to position the other ellements (like buttons or volume control) anywhere in the toolbar. Right now i had to use the "layout editing mode" button so i can keep the volume control on a normal size.

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+1

I doubt it will happen but its the only reason im sticking to panels. Gotta say the new default UI is a big improvement and step in the right direction

I love the new foobar beta. I appreciate that the authors are trying to make this incredible program more friendly for beginners (like me) whith the new default UI.

I was wondering if custom capitalization schemes will be possible in the future. Maybe a option in "Preferences" - ... - "Properties dialog" could be added for the "Capitalize" command.
Not all languages use the English capitalization scheme, and I prefer "feat." instead of "Feat." etc.

so wait... are most of the components i currently have installed going to be compatible with the new beta?

Yes. But maybe not the new default UI. But you can always use a different UI than the default.

first of all: you did a wonderful job! chapeau!

one tiny feature request: is it possible make the ui element over which the mouse pointer is hovering react to the scroll wheel instead of the currently active ui element? that would add a lot of usability to the interface!

thx,
frncle

--edit:
the volume slider already works like that, if you could extend this function to the other elements, it would be perfect!
request has already been posted by another user:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=58673

On one hand I'd say if the user really wants to do that nonsense, let him do, on the other hand I understand that this breaks the principle of easy configuration, because the user can unintenional do something he don't want to.



This is total sufficient. I didn't play too much with facets until now, so I didn't see this solution. But it can't be used for album list.

Another small feature request besides the 'use scrollwheel on mouse-over ui element instead of active ui element' one (foosion, could you add it to the request list so it won't be forgotten?):

Create a new playlist on double click in the playlist manager.

Having uninstalled CUI,
frncle

questions:
a. can i see the song that is curently playing in albumlist somehow? (i mean by clicking something)
b. is playback queue visualized someplace? (like playlist?)
c. is it possible to remember status, size, position of undocked components like eq or console? (they should survive the player restart)

Foosion's site ( http://foosion.foobar2000.org/0.9.5/ ) has foo_pqview, which allows you to turn a playlist into a queue viewer.

In the library/album list, I wish there was a "Clear" button to reset the search field

Sorry if this was already discussed, couldn't the Playlist Search being implented as an UI Element?

Select all, Delete.

This has been added with beta 3, check the new option at Preferences, General to activate it.

almost perfect

Works like a charm! Great!
frncle

I installed beta 3 under Vista (32, UAC enabled) with the setting "Install for all users" enabled and "Enable per user settings" disabled.

When starting Foobar I need to select a theme, but when I do this I get the error "Theme could not be written Access Denied".

Procmon says access is denied writing the file theme.fth.tmp in the foobar map itself.

The users profile switch should never be disabled under Vista. UAC does not allow unlimited access to folders such as "program files". Therefore programs themselves also can not write files to said folder without running into various issues.

Maybe the installer can be changed to warn users running Vista not to use this option? (Maybe it wasn't clear from my post but I'm well aware about the Vista rights in the program files folder)

The installer will either be changed so that this option will be greyed out where it really shouldn't be used or some other other option along those lines to warn users of this behaviour.

Wow, I didn't know that I can do this. Thank you for pointing it out. I'm forever in your debt!

In 0.9.4 the current volume (in dB) was displayed in the lower righthand corner, is there any way of getting that back? As much as I like 0.9.5 I hate not seeing what volume foobar is set to, and I don't want to use the volumeslider.

Hint: Right-click on the status bar.