Marinmo
Nov 4 2007, 23:50
QUOTE (Frank Bicking @ Nov 4 2007, 23:45)

Hint: Right-click on the status bar.
Too obvious, okay? Thank you so much!
QUOTE (picmixer @ Nov 5 2007, 00:05)

The installer will either be changed so that this option will be greyed out where it really shouldn't be used or some other other option along those lines to warn users of this behaviour.
Please only warn the user, as some ppl know how to deal with UAC and still use foobar with Enable user profile support disabled.
On a side note, if you use Vista with UAC and having problem with certain legacy program writing to protected folders, just install it in a different folder that you created. If it doesn't work at that time (due to Vista inability to virtualize it with VirtualStore folder or more like that legacy program likes to write to other protected folders too), you will have to run it in Administrator Compatibility mode. You will also have problem with programs like to write to HKLM tree in the registry.
ArtMustHurt
Nov 5 2007, 04:07
QUOTE (Chaser @ Oct 28 2007, 13:33)

I get this crash (picture) as soon as I press some times the next-song (random) button. I already deacitvated quite some components, but had no success yet, finding the culprit.

edit: Problem seems to be gone after updating foo_uie_albumart (http://cherans.bol.ucla.edu/fooplugins.html)
THANK YOU!!! foobar crashed for me before i updated foo_uie_albumart
foosion
Nov 5 2007, 08:59
QUOTE (thuan @ Nov 5 2007, 01:10)

QUOTE (picmixer @ Nov 5 2007, 00:05)

The installer will either be changed so that this option will be greyed out where it really shouldn't be used or some other other option along those lines to warn users of this behaviour.
Please only warn the user, as some ppl know how to deal with UAC and still use foobar with Enable user profile support disabled.
Even if the option to disable user profile support will be removed from the installer, it will still be possible to manually remove (or create) the user_profiles_enabled file so no functionality is lost.
seems an easy enough question, but once i create a new UI element space (by putting in a splitter, whatever), how do i delete it?
also: how do I make it so that the album art display only shows the now playing track instead of whatever i happen to be clicking on? if people are going to be using the Album List to create playlists and such, they'll be seeing that annoying [multiple items] message pop up waaaaaaay too often.
also: how do i remove the sub-item count from the album list panel? deselecting it in the preferences doesnt seem to do anything.
fooruncle
Nov 5 2007, 21:08
Some more proposals:
- Include the properties window font into the font and colors page and make it use the system font by default. The font can already be changed in the menu that hides behind the window icon (hard to find, i changed it about a year ago and it gave me a severe headache when i tried to find the option an hour ago...). Viewed from a usability perspective, the current solution is, well, not too good...
- Apparently, many people do not like the current buttons. What about switching to the simple white Tango media player icons (fourth line from the bottom in both sets)? They are quite neutral and fit to many visual styles.
- Talking about matters of taste: I liked the old icon better as well (it has already been mentioned elsewhere). It's harder to recognize the logo now...
- I already mentioned it, but got no response: What about making the playlist manager create a new playlist if a blank line is double-clicked (like on a blank area of the playlist tab bar). Sorry to mention it again, but I use the manager instead of tabs in my new config and this function would come really handy.
Thanks to all devs for your hard work!
frncle
picmixer
Nov 5 2007, 22:00
QUOTE (fooruncle @ Nov 5 2007, 21:08)

- Apparently, many people do not like the current buttons. What about switching to the simple white Tango media player icons (fourth line from the bottom in both sets)? They are quite neutral and fit to many visual styles.
We'll see what we can do about that in the future. Tango icons? Certainly not. Also a matter of personal taste I'd say.
QUOTE (fooruncle @ Nov 5 2007, 21:08)

- Talking about matters of taste: I liked the old icon better as well (it has already been mentioned elsewhere). It's harder to recognize the logo now...
This has already been discussed extensively in the
0.9.5 icons thread.
moredhel
Nov 5 2007, 22:09
Just posting to say a big thanks to the developers!
I'm loving the new ui configuration abilities, I prefer it by a mile to columns ui
Bug ?
The playlist switcher toolbar seems to always draw a vert scrollbar whether the list is scrollable or not.
foobar2000 0.9.5 beta 3
Default UI
Windows Vista
@Cosmo: weird, no such problem over here with the same configuration.
EDIT: Sorry, it does happen. I was looking at the playlist switcher element not the toolbar.
ArtMustHurt
Nov 6 2007, 03:39
how can i remove the thick borders between the fields?
steliyan
Nov 6 2007, 18:09
I have problem with new UI and specificly with the custom columns.
Those aren't working: %playback_time% and %playback_time_remaining%. They are OK in status bar.
foosion
Nov 6 2007, 18:45
QUOTE (steliyan @ Nov 6 2007, 18:09)

I have problem with new UI and specificly with the custom columns.
Those aren't working: %playback_time% and %playback_time_remaining%. They are OK in status bar.
Not a bug, that behaviour is intended. Playlist columns do not display that kind of dynamic playback information.
In FLAC 1.2.1 changelog I found this:
QUOTE
Ogg FLAC format:
This is not a format change, but changed default extension for Ogg FLAC from .ogg to .oga, according to new Xiph specification (SF #1762492).
So fb2k should support Ogg FLAC files with oga extension
Silverbolt
Nov 7 2007, 16:00
I have a suggestion -- you can delete playlists by middle-clicking the tab, but it deletes immediately on mousedown; for such a destructive action, I think it'd be better if it deleted on mousedown+mouseup instead (feels more natural imo and gives the user a chance to abort). Thanks for the consideration and keep up the great work.
Ah, so i have a similar suggestion:
like in firefox, foobar could handle a middle click to a free area in the playlist tabs to restore the last deleted playlist! at the moment it just make a new one (just like a double click)
just a thought
QUOTE (drake @ Nov 5 2007, 05:08)

seems an easy enough question, but once i create a new UI element space (by putting in a splitter, whatever), how do i delete it?
also: how do I make it so that the album art display only shows the now playing track instead of whatever i happen to be clicking on? if people are going to be using the Album List to create playlists and such, they'll be seeing that annoying [multiple items] message pop up waaaaaaay too often.
also: how do i remove the sub-item count from the album list panel? deselecting it in the preferences doesnt seem to do anything.
any ideas? these are pretty key elements even considering the focus on usability over appearance.
foosion
Nov 8 2007, 12:45
The first one has been answered before: cut the element you want to keep and paste it in the place of the splitter. Alternatively cut the splitter without pasting it anywhere and add something completely different.
The other two things have been on the known feature proposals list for quite some time already, i.e. it is not possible to do that at the moment.
morishani
Nov 9 2007, 14:32
0.9.5 is amazing.
But one thing I would like to be restored from the old version : return the old volume bar setting, so it will be "log" and not "linear"
hi,
could you please include an "old playlist format" option?
coz i don't have tags in my tracks. the "File Name" option works for single files, but if i load a cuesheet, this is obviously not the way, coz all tracks on the album will have the same name. so i'd have to switch between file name and artist-title all the time
thanks in advance
fooruncle
Nov 9 2007, 18:59
QUOTE (morishani @ Nov 9 2007, 14:32)

0.9.5 is amazing.
Yes, amazing it is!

I just played around with my config again in order to create a more compact layout. Doing this, I realized that two or three things might facilitate gui configuration a lot:
- Include window sizes into exported config files. Very often, clean display of column widths and album art viewer sizes depend on pixel-exact window sizes, so it might be useful to include them into the export files. if someone (like me) plans to switch between two different views, (s)he doesn't have to do the resizing all the time...
- Closely related: I'd like to have an option to switch between two or more different configs (with different window sizes, see above). In a way, that's an evolution of the scratchbox approach..
- Last but not least, I'd love to be able lock the window size completely. I know I can lock the width of elements seperated by splitter bars, but I can still change the window size along the splitters (Do you get what I try to say?)
That's all for today,
frncle
Frank Bicking
Nov 9 2007, 19:08
QUOTE (fooruncle @ Nov 9 2007, 18:59)

Closely related: I'd like to have an option to switch between two or more different configs
Use Theme files. Preferences, Default User Interface, Import/Export Theme.
If they only contain layout or color settings and are stored in the themes subfolder, they will also be listed in the Quick Setup dialog.
fooruncle
Nov 9 2007, 19:26
Thanks for your quick reply!
QUOTE (Frank Bicking @ Nov 9 2007, 19:08)

QUOTE (fooruncle @ Nov 9 2007, 18:59)

Closely related: I'd like to have an option to switch between two or more different configs
Use Theme files. Preferences, Default User Interface, Import/Export Theme.
That's exactly what I do for the time being.

QUOTE
If they only contain layout or color settings and are stored in the themes subfolder, they will also be listed in the Quick Setup dialog.
Unfortunately, they contain more then this (all boxes checked). Since configs containing all the information will probably be exchanged quite often here, maybe it's worth adding a 'complete configs' window in the quick setup? Or a submenu for those, even better!
QUOTE
QUOTE
Last but not least, I'd love to be able lock the window size completely.
Lock both splitter panes of the top-level splitter.
Hmm, I've only got one left/right splitter in my layout.
[My Config] [My 'Shrinked' Config] Both panes are already locked (width only), but I can still change the height. Since my two configs have different heights, I have to adjust it whenever I switch...
Enjoy your weekend,
frncle
shlomomofo
Nov 10 2007, 00:28
QUOTE (sPeziFisH @ Oct 31 2007, 17:54)

Is it possible to process files per 'Automatically Fill Values'-pattern directly by context-menu or at least keyboard-shortcut, comparable with the masstagger-scripts ?
The 'Automatically Fill Values'-panel is nice and has some nice options, but sometimes you want to go the direct way, without click, click, click, click. At least 2 clicks and to much selection on the way IMHO.
+1 new beta is sweet (very very sweet), but i do miss being able to hit tagging scripts from the context menu.
AgeOfPanic
Nov 10 2007, 01:51
Just wanted to say thanks for the new version. This one has me switched over completely to foobar now. Just wanted to suggest two things. When you deselect the program, but foobar is still visible, the Album Art of the currently playing song disappears and it says No Selection. I think it would be nicer if the picture would just stay. Furthermore an option to remove the splitter bars once you have everything set up would be nice.
david_dl
Nov 10 2007, 06:39
There's a typo in the Fix VBR header dialog, second paragraph

QUOTE (fooruncle @ Nov 10 2007, 06:59)

...
- Include window sizes into exported config files. Very often, clean display of column widths and album art viewer sizes depend on pixel-exact window sizes, so it might be useful to include them into the export files. if someone (like me) plans to switch between two different views, (s)he doesn't have to do the resizing all the time...
...
Try locking the splitters containing these elements (right click on the splitter bar).
clodia
Nov 12 2007, 15:39
I really love the new foobar2000.
What I miss is, though, where can I now add the formatting strings for the actual playlist?
Mind, with the new layout options I might not need it, but I had a really nice one which assigned random colors to artists and I might like something similar ...
imiganai
Nov 13 2007, 02:44
Has anyone else noticed that foo_albumlist now seems to be dependent on foo_ui_std? If you remove the standard interface (and use columns ui or something), going to the library menu and clicking "album list", or going to the preferences and activating the list from there do nothing (no window shows up). Not good.
nightfishing
Nov 13 2007, 04:53
QUOTE (imiganai @ Nov 12 2007, 19:44)

Has anyone else noticed that foo_albumlist now seems to be dependent on foo_ui_std? If you remove the standard interface (and use columns ui or something), going to the library menu and clicking "album list", or going to the preferences and activating the list from there do nothing (no window shows up). Not good.
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....p;hl=foo_ui_std
imiganai
Nov 13 2007, 04:58
QUOTE (nightfishing @ Nov 12 2007, 19:53)

QUOTE (imiganai @ Nov 12 2007, 19:44)

Has anyone else noticed that foo_albumlist now seems to be dependent on foo_ui_std? If you remove the standard interface (and use columns ui or something), going to the library menu and clicking "album list", or going to the preferences and activating the list from there do nothing (no window shows up). Not good.
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....p;hl=foo_ui_stdSo yeah. But in my defense, that post was NOT very search-friendly

Thanks!
Fool_on_the_hill
Nov 13 2007, 12:32
!!!THANKS TO PETER FOR THE NEW GREAT DEFAULT UI!!!
(Now I don't know which UI to use: Default, Columns or Panels...)
I have a few proposals:
1. It would be nice if I could select a number of fields in Selection Properties panel and copy/cut/delete/paste them. And if preferences of the panel (table: metadata/location/general/replay gain/other) would appears when I right-click columns headers of the panel.
2. Antialiasing in Spectrum panel.
3. I would like Album Art Viewer panel to be much more configurable (i.e. I store pics in other folders, with other names...).
4. I would like to have Lyrics panel, Peakmeter panel.
5. It would be nice if the buttons (stop, play and other) would be configurable and skinable like in UI Columns.
fooruncle
Nov 13 2007, 14:37
QUOTE (david_dl @ Nov 10 2007, 06:39)

QUOTE (fooruncle @ Nov 10 2007, 06:59)

...
- Include window sizes into exported config files. Very often, clean display of column widths and album art viewer sizes depend on pixel-exact window sizes, so it might be useful to include them into the export files. if someone (like me) plans to switch between two different views, (s)he doesn't have to do the resizing all the time...
...
Try locking the splitters containing these elements (right click on the splitter bar).
Thanks for the advice!
However, as I explained some posts below, this doesn't help in my case, since the splitter lock only works in one direction... Furthermore, saving the window size in export files would make sharing configurations much easier. Actually, it's an important part of any DUI configuration, isn't it (even the display of maximised-window-configs is dependent on the screen resolution)?

frncle
mourner
Nov 13 2007, 17:02
I second fooruncle's request. It's quite inconvenient to resize window after importing some config or even just applying the layout from scratchbox.
shakey_snake
Nov 15 2007, 19:33
Is there going to be another beta release, or should we expect the offical release next?
(I know the know/fixed issues page mentions beta4, but that may just be the official release)
Beta 4 is there since a couple hours.
QUOTE
Issues fixed in beta 4
* Bug: "Reset Page" doesn't reset playback state display formatting settings in Preferences / Display / Default User Interface.
* Glitch: When starting playback of slow-to-open files/streams, status bar still shows "stopped".
* Glitch: MP3 decoder was using wrong compiler settings, resulting in a slowdown.
* Regression: Some Converter error messages less readable than in pre-0.9.5.
* Usability: "Send to Playlist" dialog is modal.
* Usability: "Create Album List View from These Items" dialog content doesn't update with moving/deleting files.
* Bug: When using the copy command in album list and pasting the result in search filter the last letter is not copied
* Usability: Open Audio CD dialog: "Add To Playlist" button not disabled when currently active playlist is an autoplaylist
* Usability: Open Audio CD dialog: "Open Audio CD..." menu command spawns another dialog instead of activating already existing one when one already exists
* Usability: Open Audio CD dialog: "Rip" button not always grayed out when Converter component is not available
i don't like the new equalizer, there's no numbers for the level, can't u add them like in the old version?
when I do a file operations rename - there is no way to auto capitalize file names, like there is when you tag files.
i guess the work around is to tag first and then rename the files accordingly
additionally when i do a file rename and when changing one file to another based on my naming standards - sometimes I get a duplicate - it it possible to have an option to delete if already exists perhaps based on name / file size / bit rate - I think this would be a good option.
i like the notification to say there were failed attempts to rename but maybe a better dialogue box could be created or a list of left hand side vs right hand side and then you can tick the file to keep and the one to overwrite..
Fandango
Nov 20 2007, 16:45
QUOTE (CiTay @ Nov 20 2007, 00:19)

Beta 4 is there since a couple hours.
But
foo_utils is still 0.6.2 beta 3. Does this mean anything? Because usually there was a new foo_utils for every new core beta...
foosion
Nov 20 2007, 19:29
No, foobar2000 0.9.5 betas and foo_utils 0.6.2 betas are not correlated.
Just registered to say Thank You! to all the folks who made this release possible.
I am in love with the new Default UI. Everything is stable and working well.
There are a few things i would like to suggest / ask though:
1• I used to have keyboard shortcuts to some of the context-menu Tag Scripts to rate the current playing file quickly. What would be the alternative now that it seems there are is no Edit Tag dialogue? It is simply too cumbersome to open the Properties dialog and fill in the RATING tag manually.
2• What happened to the Buttons? even the buttons with beta3 seemed to be fine, pretty nice and simple. The buttons with beta4 seem to be distorted and uglier siblings. Custom buttons would be fine as suggested earlier, if the process can it can be kept simple, but the default buttons should at least be usable!
3• It would be nice if there were some option to customize at least the Group Header Text in the Playlist View Groups, or some way to shade groupings.
4• Is there a way i can customize the filenames that the new Album Art Viewer searches for in a folder. What does it look for by default?
5• I prefer the default seekbar slider prior to 0.9.5. It was 'Sharper'. (I am on XP with Themes disabled.)
6• Numbers indicating the amplification levels in the Equalizer (as it used to be earlier) would be great.
Thats all as of now. Will Play some more and get back.
Thank you Again.
foosion
Nov 21 2007, 10:29
QUOTE (Blur @ Nov 20 2007, 21:57)

1• I used to have keyboard shortcuts to some of the context-menu Tag Scripts to rate the current playing file quickly. What would be the alternative now that it seems there are is no Edit Tag dialogue? It is simply too cumbersome to open the Properties dialog and fill in the RATING tag manually.
The masstagger is not an optional component, its command is now called "Tagging/Manage Scripts". However, for simple things like rating, the new Quick Tagger is easier. See the
optional components page for both.
QUOTE (Blur @ Nov 20 2007, 21:57)

3• It would be nice if there were some option to customize at least the Group Header Text in the Playlist View Groups, or some way to shade groupings.
You can already create custom grouping schemes. See Preferences > Display > Default User Interface > Playlist View.
See
Known Issues and Feature Proposals and recent posts for answers to your other questions.
thanks Foosion for your reply and patience. didn't notice the Quick Tagger optional component earlier.
QUOTE
3• It would be nice if there were some option to customize at least the Group Header Text in the Playlist View Groups, or some way to shade groupings.
i meant customizing the color/font/background/border etc. i guess:
QUOTE
# Feature: Color and tab rendering in custom columns ($rgb and $tab)
would be a step in that direction.
and here are some more Thoughts...
1• one thing i haven't been able to achieve is the display of lyrics without the use of UIpanels in the default UI. I think the Selection Properties UI Element can be made more powerful if one can choose what information is displayed via Title Formatting, thereby displaying embedded Lyrics if i want it to. Also, as of now when i click on the fields in Selection Properties it shows an editable box, but i can't edit the data. If the data could be directly edited for some of the fields, it would be quite useful to edit some tags quickly e.g. Comments etc. (In a way it would intuitively provide the functionality of the InfoBox plugin)
2• the search box could be available as an UI Element, displaying/updating the results in a Playlist.
3• i have always missed the ability to browse the playlist with keyboard alphabets i.e. for example, in iTunes, if the playlist is sorted by artist and i press the 'R' key on the keyboard, i am brought to the first artist track that starts with R and so on... Its a default Explorer behaviour. It would a nice addition that would make browsing simpler (though i don't know if its simple to implement!).
4• is there a way to save the sorting schemes (formatting patterns) in Edit>Sort>Sort by.... (i am sorry if this is too generic a question and not appropriate for this thread.)
mourner
Nov 22 2007, 11:30
foosion,
The
feature proposals post wasn't updated for 3 weeks, maybe it's time to do so? This would be great. Thanks!
tom_vienna_at
Nov 22 2007, 12:52
QUOTE (ailef @ Nov 20 2007, 13:57)

i don't like the new equalizer, there's no numbers for the level, can't u add them like in the old version?

That's because they don't want you to know how many dB's you in- or decrease an eq-band
But that doesn't matter actually... it's always those gigantic 1 dB-steps... a very special feature for more or less deaf people, courtesy of foobar
radio_cascara
Nov 22 2007, 13:21
would it be possible to add an option to ditch that gradient shading of every toolbar component in final?
it ain't working on customized layout, my foobar looks like patched up frankenstein. also if that "order" word could be kicked out of "playback order" component it would be great.

and yeah, we need custom buttons
Fool_on_the_hill
Nov 22 2007, 20:44
Bug in
Preferences->File types:
When I press column header "Discription", icons in left column did not sort out correctly.
SamHain86
Nov 22 2007, 21:15
I loved the 0.9.5 beta 3, so I was really excited to upgrade to b4. I used that new customizable interface as much as I could: nothing fancy only the elements that came standard in the interface designer.
However, now whenever I have FB2K running and switch windows, and come back to FB2K, the previous window image is "stuck" in the playlist window. Even if I minimize and bring the window back, it does not show the playlist section. I uninstalled everything from the b4 and went back to the b3 but the bug persists, which makes this more frustrating.
I take immaculate care of my computer. This is getting annoying since I haven't installed anything new. Any one else experience this problem?
nightfishing
Nov 22 2007, 21:37
QUOTE (SamHain86 @ Nov 22 2007, 14:15)

However, now whenever I have FB2K running and switch windows, and come back to FB2K, the previous window image is "stuck" in the playlist window. Even if I minimize and bring the window back, it does not show the playlist section. I uninstalled everything from the b4 and went back to the b3 but the bug persists, which makes this more frustrating.
I've had it on and off with all the betas. My problems always occured in the facet windows, but have stopped since the upgrade to the 11/10 versions of facets.
Problem with last version (0.9.5beta5) - not work "install for all users"...
Hirvine
Nov 25 2007, 19:23
Works fine for me though ...
A totally fresh install or an update above beta 4? Since I did an install above beta 4, "install for all users". I don't know whether it's vital information, but describing the situation can't be too bad.
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