Linkin
Jan 25 2003, 17:49
I like both WinXP and Suse Linux 8.1. For me it is impossible to work just with Linux...
Xenion
Jan 25 2003, 18:03
Working/Gaming/Encoding/etc = Win2000/WinXP
Network Server= Suse 8.1
I try using GNU/Linux for everything and it works fine for me...
Neo Neko
Jan 25 2003, 18:42
I have 3 PCs running Linux and one running windows. If that says anything to you. One Debian, one Mandrake, and a Gentoo in the works. There is also my BeOS laptop.
don't you see enough of this useless debate all over the web?..
use what you like, use what can enable you to do what you want, like what you want, who cares?
i use windows because good enough audio tools, such as editors, vst and dx plugins, softsynths, don't exist for linux, period. And for gaming.
For anything else, i can use linux.
And for serving files, and maximum security, you must use linux, unix or *bsd.
That sums it up.
caligae
Jan 25 2003, 18:46
No Windows/LInux. Use FreeBSD - you just gotta love its port system
sphoid
Jan 25 2003, 22:09
yes this will probably be a civil war until the end of time just as plagued with overzealousness as the gnome versus kde flamewar. I dont think its really relevant which one is liked more than the other. Plain and simple there are tradeoffs going either way and its a matter of how your accustomed to doing things. If you absolutely must have certain applications or libraries that are not cross platform then its a moot point. Personally i have found an implementation for everything i need under linux. Sure some of the apps arent as robust (or in some cases are more robust) as their win32 counterparts which can be attributed to a number of reasons, i have plenty of theories, but thats a sacrifice linux users make (or the benefit they reap in the opposite case). To put it plainly, i never find myself sitting here thinking "damn, i used to be able to do that under windows, why cant i do it under linux?"
Some people use windows because its mindless, easy, well-integrated and for the most part 'just works'. Some people use it because they are dependent on certain apps that are win32 only. Some people use it because they dont know anything else. Those are things i can respect and accept. That being said i will tell you why i prefer linux.
1.First off i never have to worry about being able to afford software because everything i use is freely downloable (most importantly, the OS itself is free)
2.If i dont like the way something is implemented i can change it as almost everything under linux is open source.
3.Right out of the box, linux is scalable from a desktop system all the way up to an enterprise level server (with no licensing issues) so no figuring out which variant of the same OS i need to get a particular service or server daemon.
4.I know exactly what is going on in my system at ALL times. Everything is clearly accessible in configuration files and damn near every one has an entry in the man files.
5.Negligable Overhead as there are no layers upon layers of interdependent services providing a bunch of bloated features i wont use in addition to the one minor task i actually need it for. (Try stopping most of the services under an NT based system and see how stable/functional your system is afterwards) The system is highly modular and is easy to configure for switchable runlevels which change the system's primary functionality. For example: in one runlevel i can be running a simple desktop environment with almost nothing running except foreground apps and with one command it can switch over to a full fledged web/SQL server.
6.Linux is *rich* with free development tools. I once gave a really good analogy on what separates development on *nix versus win32. Developing on *nix is akin to walking into a big ass wearhouse full of endless rows of goods (IDEs, programming languages, GUI toolkits, libraries, source code). The door to this wearhouse is wide open and you can go in as many times as you want undisturbed. Developing on win32 is like walking up to a wearhouse that has locked door with an armed guard , you must be escorted inside (blindfolded), and you are entitled to only what you came in for (with prior permission (at considerable expense)). There are a few free useful things but they are sitting in an old dusty box behind the building and they most likely have been ported from *nix. Granted not everything is like this, but when thrown in a big salad bowl and averaged out it might as well all be like that.
In a nutshell it doesnt matter whether im a dinky end user or an enterprise IT manager, i still enjoy the same benefits. Now just to be fair, i'll throw this out there: Documentation for most freely available programs sucks my asshole but thats the price i pay. Linux is a system for people who like to tinker and figure shit out or who already know what the hell they are doing. I can personally account, linux wasnt really fun until i had an idea of what was going on but now that ive climbed up a pretty steep learning curve, im glad i did it.
Edit: Also before anyone calls me a hypocrite, i do have small partition with XP dedicated only to gaming. I blame this on the fact that the linux gaming community is not strong enough to influence the major game developers to support it plus i consider winex to still be a little immature for my tastes.
Edit: PS, gentoo's portage system owns too
Gregory Abbey
Jan 25 2003, 22:23
Before inexpensive NAT devices were available.. I built a Red Hat Linux box in a BIG server chassis for use as a broadband cable Gateway. It got `rooted' so I took it off-line. That box now has Win2000 Adv Server installed on it and stores.. what else.. encoded music files.
Cheers..!!
Artemis3
Jan 26 2003, 02:49
I run a FreeBSD gateway and a win2k machine mostly for games and video capture.
If i have to build a server, FreeBSD all the way. For a desktop (work) machine, i would pick Linux, unless FreeBSD has no issues (some fancy devices not yet supported, etc.)
And its not just the ports... Look at that documentation!
Linkin
Jan 26 2003, 04:14
i depend on ms office, i don't like openoffice in linux
QuantumKnot
Jan 27 2003, 21:30
I use RedHat Linux 8 at school for research and Windows 2000 at home.
Who needs Microsoft Word? I use LaTeX in both Linux and Windows for my reports.
Gregory Abbey
Jan 27 2003, 21:51
QUOTE(QuantumKnot @ Jan 27 2003 - 10:30 PM)
Who needs Microsoft Word? I use LaTeX in both Linux and Windows for my reports.

Must watch comments here because MS police could be monitoring.. { smile }
It is not recommended to use MS Word for mission critical project such as where documents are of "signoff" variety... since failures/corruption/incompatibility could result.. and adversely impact milestone and or profit margin in a BIG way.. like making you look REALLY bad. This comes from more than one actual and true story.
p.s. ok to run mission critical on Win2000 Pro however..
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