KRiSPY
Jan 28 2003, 09:20
I was just reading through the post on "format strings" and thought it would be really nice if support for "schemes" could be added. It would be nifty to be able to download someone else's scheme that contains all their colour setups and string formats (if you get what i mean) to see what other people are trying. It would also allow for more flexability so you can use different schemes depending on how you want to listen to your music (per album vs. random play).
I wouldn't think it should be that hard to add suppport for. It would just be a matter of seperating the scheme components from the config file into its own file. Then adding a menu to select the scheme you want. This could either be a menubar or an pop-up window like in winamp for changing skins.
This could possibly help satisfy some of the people that so desparately want skin support.
Anyway I would like to hear other peoples thoughts
voltron
Jan 28 2003, 12:42
there already is... see one you like? copy paste.
KRiSPY
Jan 28 2003, 22:16
What i was trying to get at was that it would be great to be able to quickly change between different formats and colours with a few simple clicks or key presses. Not having to find a sting format you have saved in a text document somewhere on your computer and then copy the text over into FB2K preferences (plus you then also have to change the "display" colours manually).
voltron
Jan 29 2003, 01:54
why would you want to switch back and forth?
KRiSPY
Jan 29 2003, 08:34
i would like to see different information depending on how i'm listening to my music.
For instance, if i'm listening to random songs i've loaded in my playlist i don't really want the album information being displayed (it could look like a bit of a shambles depending on the formating). Whilst if i've got all my albums loaded i want to see the album information.
This is a rather basic simple example, but the options are boundless

Anyway i still think this would be a good feature and it by no means adds bloat to FB2K
Just remeber when you accidently click the reset to defaults button in the preferences you will be wishing this feature was implemented so your strings where safely in another config file B)
(back to voltron to smack my great idea back down

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ssamadhi97
Jan 29 2003, 09:44
I like this idea.
presets for the dsp chain (esp. the eq) would be nice as well imo.
David Nordin
Jan 29 2003, 10:00
EQ presets are stupid inventions - abuse of EQ even.
as for presets for the rest... ? what would that be?
QUOTE(MTRH @ Jan 29 2003 - 08:00 AM)
EQ presets are stupid inventions - abuse of EQ even.
Could you please elaborate on this?
I think it is a good idea to have different persents, e.g., for headphones and speakers.
David Nordin
Jan 29 2003, 10:16
no it's not, not general anyway.
EQ should be used to make a flat response per device. there is not universal preset that's good for all headphones or speakers, or room acoustics for that matter.
Trelane
Jan 29 2003, 10:21
I think they mean where they create the "presets" themselves for the devices they use (e.g., speakers or headphones). "User created profiles" would be a better name.
David Nordin
Jan 29 2003, 10:31
right, that's different.
Just you wait, soon there would be presets swarming around everywhere and people asking "is my preset good?" or saying "try xxx preset - it rules!".
hehe..
I guess I'm just allergic.
voltron
Jan 29 2003, 14:20
haha, i don't mean to put your request down. whatever tickles your pickle man. personally, i don't care for it since i keep fb2k minimized and i just listen. by no means am i trying to say it's a bad idea. gluck with getting it done =)
Yeah, I think same way as voltron. I also have foobar minimized nearly all the time. And I'd like to know, what's the point in having cool skins or all that? For God's sake, it's an AUDIO player! The format strings and customizable colors are really enough. I use them to get the playlist as clear as possible, so when I happen to NOT have fb2k minimized, I can easily find the song I'm looking for.
QUOTE(anza @ Jan 29 2003 - 12:32 PM)
Yeah, I think same way as voltron. I also have foobar minimized nearly all the time. And I'd like to know, what's the point in having cool skins or all that?
Sorry for the off-topic.
It's a pity that many discussions in this forum can be summarized as follows:
Forum user
A: It would be nice if Foobar had <feature X>.
Forum users
B,
C,
D in unison: A, how dare you mention <feature X>! Shame on you! It suxx0rz! It is against the whole idea of foobaring!
I wish people would leave it to zZzZzZz and plugin developers to decide what is really needed, and what isn't.
voltron
Jan 30 2003, 03:55
moneo,
the point of a forum is to give input and opinions. otherwise there wouldn't be a reply button.
volt
I don't MIND having cool skins etc, did I ever say that? I only asked what's the point in having them? Ok, the look cool and you can show off them to your pals, but... Is there any better reason? I mean, usually the default UI is much better than those cool skins. They're much clearer and easier to use, or at least that's what I think.
ssamadhi97
Jan 30 2003, 08:27
QUOTE(MTRH @ Jan 29 2003 - 05:31 PM)
right, that's different.
Just you wait, soon there would be presets swarming around everywhere and people asking "is my preset good?" or saying "try xxx preset - it rules!".
hehe..
I guess I'm just allergic.
I for one was actually rather thinking of presets to compensate for deficiencies of unmastered recordings (audience recordings of concerts for example). I don't feel like figuring out the proper settings to suppress resonances and make a show sound more natural all over again every time I listen to it. See my point?
KRiSPY
Jan 30 2003, 08:38
I have noticed the same thing as what Moneo mentioned, but also believe that the forums are a place for open debate. I think the main problem is that some people read about an idea they like and because they agree with it they don't feel like they need to post a reply, while people who don't like the idea need to post a reply expressing why. This isn't a bad thing, it just has the unfortunate side-effect of giving a negative feel to the forums.
zZzZzZz may have a set idea in his mind about things he wants to accomplish, but i would think it's also nice the get an outsiders opinon on the software. Certain features might be mentioned that he never even thought of. Plus it might interest hime to see what other people think are important things to include
RE: anza about skins, I also don't mind skins but don't think they are necessary (considering i always used the winamp default skin anyway). But when I don't have the UI minimized (about 2% of the time) i want something that looks half decent and displays the information i need clearly.
whipper25
Jan 30 2003, 08:59
a little off topic:
you guys should try freeshade..a great program that can roll up any window..works great with foobar..so you don't have to minimize it to tray..its only the title bar..and you can roll down the window anytime you like..or roll it back up...check it out
David Nordin
Jan 30 2003, 09:15
QUOTE(ssamadhi97 @ Jan 30 2003 - 03:27 PM)
I for one was actually rather thinking of presets to compensate for deficiencies of unmastered recordings (audience recordings of concerts for example). I don't feel like figuring out the proper settings to suppress resonances and make a show sound more natural all over again every time I listen to it. See my point?
much of the same thing really: different mics etc. causing different results in the recording hence one profile for this would make some stuff sound more "proper" and other nastier. How would you propose a general profile for such usage should look like.
I'm just questioning the practical aspect here, nothing else.
ssamadhi97
Jan 30 2003, 10:30
QUOTE(MTRH @ Jan 30 2003 - 04:15 PM)
How would you propose a general profile for such usage should look like.
There IS no "general" profile for such usage - the eq has to be set up for each individual show/recording (following my example). And this is where the presets would kick in for me - one recording, one accordingly tweaked preset for the eq.
and yes, I know that I could equalize the source files themselves and keep a processed copy for listening and an unedited copy for trading..
Volcano
Jan 30 2003, 10:42
QUOTE
I was just reading through the post on "format strings" and thought it would be really nice if support for "schemes" could be added. It would be nifty to be able to download someone else's scheme that contains all their colour setups and string formats (if you get what i mean) to see what other people are trying. It would also allow for more flexability so you can use different schemes depending on how you want to listen to your music (per album vs. random play).
That would be a great idea, I was going to propose this too. When listening to albums for example, I'd like to have the track numbers displayed in the playlist, and Album Gain mode, while when listening to the complete playlist randomly, the track numbers aren't necessary, and Track Gain mode is desired.
kjoonlee
Jan 31 2003, 00:02
Off topic post.
Volcano: Hm. You've just given me an idea. IMHO It would be nice if there was a quick way to switch replaygain modes.
Volcano
Jan 31 2003, 10:02
That would also be great. It would at least solve half the problem for me.
This read is becoming very off-topic. Please get back on topic here or I will either close this thread, or move it to the off-topic forum.
If there isn't any further things to discuss here about scheme support, and I don't think there will be, then please start a new thread for new discussion.
After reading complete content of this thead, I've decided it would be most appropriate to move it to the off-topic forum.
This isn't a bad thing and if you want to continue on-topic discussion from this thread, feel free to start a new thread in the Foobar2000 forum, and quote from this thread.
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