soundmeister
Mar 11 2008, 18:51
Hello everyone, I found these forums very helpful for backing up my CD collection.
I use EAC to rip and foobar for listening. I've been using LAME V0 for all my previous rips. I'm considering FLAC for my next rips and I'm curious to know if it makes any difference to encode in EAC or foobar. Are there any pros and cons that may affect the sound quality?
Bourne
Mar 11 2008, 19:04
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soundmeister
Mar 11 2008, 19:09
Yes, I'm aware of pointing the programs to the external compressor. Is there a specific reason why you recommend encoding to FLAC in EAC and not in FB2k?
drbeachboy
Mar 11 2008, 19:54
If you are re-ripping your CD's, then EAC can be a more secure rip than fb2k, though both rip secure. If you already have the WAV files on your HD, then use fb2k. The encoding part makes no difference which program is used, as both call the external FLAC.exe. It's the ripping part that requires the decision to use either EAC or fb2k. I hope that helps.
greynol
Mar 11 2008, 20:28
If you rip with EAC you'll find it's a lot less work to configure EAC to create and tag the flac files than have foobar convert and tag wave files. The key part here is saving yourself additional work in tagging as an extra step.
Now if you rip to a single file wave image and create a cue sheet using EAC, creation of individual tagged flac files with foobar is simplified and no longer an extra step, though I'm not recommending this method. If you want a single file per album then by all means go for it but maybe consider that EAC can also convert a single file wave image to a single file flac image as part of the initial ripping process.
soundmeister
Mar 11 2008, 20:37
I'm using EAC to rip and have no intention of changing that. I like to have a separate file for each track and I don't plan on changing that either. I'm not worried about the tagging since I use mp3tag to adjust the tags after creating the flac files.
I was just wondering if it made a difference if I let EAC or fb2k do the encoding. I like to rip the tracks as waves first and then encode them using fb2k since the interface looks much more user friendly.
greynol
Mar 11 2008, 20:43
QUOTE(soundmeister @ Mar 11 2008, 19:37)

I was just wondering if it made a difference if I let EAC or fb2k do the encoding.
There is no difference.
QUOTE(soundmeister @ Mar 11 2008, 19:37)

I like to rip the tracks as waves first and then encode them using fb2k since the interface looks much more user friendly.
Not taking tagging into account, this
still sounds like extra work to me and hence not as user-friendly.
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=EAC_and_FLAChttp://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?ti...Lossless_Backup
probedb
Mar 12 2008, 07:03
If you want less work then use EAC to rip and encode to FLAC and tag them.
You can then still mess around with the tags after but if you set the information in EAC correctly you should even need to do that much.
tom_vienna_at
Mar 12 2008, 08:46
Personally I use fb2k for ripping, encoding to flac and replaygaining (in one step so to say)... and since EAC as well as fb2k rip secure, there should be no difference whatsoever.
Pls. do correct me if I am wrong here... thank you!
greynol
Mar 12 2008, 10:26
fb2k has no AccurateRip support. Besides this there are differences between the two designs that can result in differences in output.
You can create a
script to incorporate Replaygain (even in album mode) into EAC's ripping process as well.
EDIT: Link added to a very nice example.
tom_vienna_at
Mar 12 2008, 11:12
QUOTE(greynol @ Mar 12 2008, 17:26)

fb2k has no AccurateRip support. Besides this there are differences between the two designs that can result in differences in output.
You can create a script incorporate Replaygain (even in album mode) into EAC's ripping process as well.
hmmm... differences in output... I thought "secure" means bit-by-bit identical outputs when it comes to ripping. If I understand correctly, those differences can't be caused by the flac.exe, since EAC as well as fb2k use the same flac.exe. Besides that, I believe those differences don't necessarily mean differences in audio-quality...?
About the script for incorporating replaygain into EAC's ripping-process... that (and the EAC-set-up) is exactly why I use fb2k. Foobar is easy to use and I don't have to fiddle around with stuff I have no clue about (scripts). But I do understand that EAC might be first choice for experienced users who know what they are doing. Accurate Rip makes sense if you rip stuff that other people rip often too. I found for a very specialized music-taste, Accurate Rip often has no comparisons.
greynol
Mar 12 2008, 11:24
With all respect, the guy already said he isn't interested in using foobar to rip.
Foobar vs. EAC has already been
discussed to death. We don't need a repeat in this thread.
tom_vienna_at
Mar 12 2008, 12:38
QUOTE(greynol @ Mar 12 2008, 18:24)

With all respect, the guy already said he isn't interested in using foobar to rip.
Foobar vs. EAC has already been
discussed to death. We don't need a repeat in this thread.
I understand. Thanks for the link to the EAC vs. fb2k-discussion.
probedb
Mar 13 2008, 07:58
QUOTE(greynol @ Mar 12 2008, 16:26)

fb2k has no AccurateRip support. Besides this there are differences between the two designs that can result in differences in output.
You can create a
script to incorporate Replaygain (even in album mode) into EAC's ripping process as well.
EDIT: Link added to a very nice example.
Thanks for the link to the script, I had no idea you could do that
Tropican
Mar 13 2008, 20:08
It's not very important, but FLAC files created in foobar will lack seekpoints. Unless you want them for some reason, it shouldn't be a problem. This difference has nothing to do with sound quality, so it doesn't sound as if it would be of concern to you.
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