QUOTE (poleepkwa @ Mar 26 2008, 06:19)

I agree that more "details" about the whole setup is needed indeed.Like how is your cd player connected to the dac vs the music server? How long cables you run? For me its the opposite:ripped sounds better than cd...
Thanks for the input!
Happy to provide details. It is my hope that the problem can be fixed by tweaking.
DAC: actually it is a CD player with digital inputs so it can play from it's integrated transport as CD player or from a digital source as a DAC. Connected to music server with 1m
coax (note I edited this, it used to say "RCA).
Player: closed-box music server (prefer not to say brand in public forum; this is a great product and I don't want anyone to get an impression there could be something wrong with it without any foundation). From what I gather from the web, it is running linux on an SH4 processor. There might also be a TI DSP. Part of my problem in tracking down this issue is that I can't get inside the player. I couldn't change the decoder even if I wanted to. So I'm not hoping to find a better ALAC decoder, I'm just trying to understand what the problem could be.
Source: netgear networked disk drive connected to ethernet part directly on back of music server box
Encoder: iTunes 6/7 (for this testing I have re-ALACed the test files using the latest iTunes)
What does the difference sound like? Here are some observations using Flamenco Sketches on Kind of Blue:
- after the quiet piano intro, the horn comes in fairly loudly; with the CD, it's smooth, with the ALAC it is sharp and piercing (my wife claps her hands over her ears with the ALAC one); hard to be sure, but I think the levels are matched
- when the first horn part gets quiet, on the CD you can hear a sort of burbling or fuzz to it. With ALAC, that fuzz/burble is very muted
- generally I would say the ALACs sound like CD's first sounded when they came out, kind of intense or forward overall
Regarding expectations/placebo/etc.
- I can route Rhapsody through this setup also, and playing the same material via Rhapsody stream is more listenable than the ALAC, although without as much "you-are-there-ness" I won't say it is "better" than the ALACs, but Phapsody is what I most often choose to listen to these days.
- I didn't set out to do a comparison of ALAC with CD; I have been pulled into this because over time I have found the ALACs more and more disquieting to listen to, perhaps I have become sensitized to it and that could contribute to a "get-what-you-expect" error. Believe me, it's it not because I want it to be so, I've coverted all my CDs to ALAC and I never wanted to touch a plastic CD again.
- It's not just me, my wife who has no idea (by her choice) what is playing noticeably cringes with the ALAC files when there are sharp notes on horns or whatever.
Next Steps:
I have acquired a sound card with S/PDIF input. I'm going to see if I can capture and compare the two bitstreams. I've seen some posts on this forum about how to do that, but it might be a while before I can find the time to do it.