I found this link
http://english.iriverhk.com/forum/suggestion.aspon iRiver. There is a line for MPC and it doesn't stand on top.
Let's vote.
May be, may be it will work
Frank Bicking
Feb 2 2003, 18:01
Voted
Voted!. If this guys add mpc to a player, I will be the first to get it.
Artemis3
Feb 2 2003, 19:00
Ok, this is nonsense...
Open Source firmware only 14? If you get that first, you can have all the others!!!.
Think, people, think!
With Open Source firmware you could... say, wipe wma and add mpc now, or something alike.
Can't believe even tetris is voted higher. Tetris!?!? Get a gameboy!
QUOTE(Artemis3 @ Feb 2 2003 - 05:00 PM)
Open Source firmware only 14? If you get that first, you can have all the others!!!.
Think, people, think!
With Open Source firmware you could... say, wipe wma and add mpc now, or something alike.
Can't believe even tetris is voted higher. Tetris!?!? Get a gameboy!

I saw that. But all suggestions are made by users not iRiver. And I don't believe iRiver will open sources.
What about Tetris or even Clock -

-it's a crime till we haven't MPC or at least OGG. I would like to drop out that WMA

and ASF , and even CD-Audio and FM to get MPC and OGG.
Or at least iRiver can make different firmwares.
Voted,
Thx for the link de Mon
JensRex
Feb 2 2003, 23:50
I even went through the trouble of setting up a free e-mail account, so I could register at their site, to be able to vote

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DaveSimmons
Feb 3 2003, 01:22
I voted for FLAC and a DVD-based player -- think about 12 true-CD-quality CDs on one DVD-R, sweet!
NumLOCK
Feb 3 2003, 02:14
I have just voted for mpc too. The sweetest thing would be mpc & dvd-r support B)
I think support for dvd-r shall come naturally in the next devices..
westgroveg
Feb 3 2003, 02:18
I don't think most people will benefit much from mpc on portable players I like to have "gold" backups so I use EAC, .APE, .COL, .MD5, bla, bla, bla & MPC for my CD-R compilations but when I want to go portable I now use CD-RW, CDA & Mpxchange AP128 for xbox I don't have much of a need for mpc hardware players because I like to mix & match songs & IMO you won't hear much difference VS AP128 with a portable players.
onthejazz
Feb 3 2003, 02:29
voted .MPC, keep it goin peeps.
NumLOCK
Feb 3 2003, 03:21
QUOTE(westgroveg @ Feb 3 2003 - 09:18 AM)
IMO you won't hear much difference VS AP128 with a portable players.
It doesn't apply to me, at least. Depending on the music, the 128ish mp3 sound is obviously less clear (ie: softened) to me, even on little in-ear headphones.
besides just having better sound quality, actually the main benefit of mpc support for myself would just be that I wouldn't have to either transcode or re-encode my collection to mp3 to use in a portable player.
voted for vorbis and mpc with 3nicks
Madrigal
Feb 3 2003, 08:44
Voted.
I voted for Open Source Firmware, which I think is by far a better idea than just choosing one format...
QUOTE(westgroveg @ Feb 3 2003 - 12:18 AM)
IMO you won't hear much difference VS AP128 with a portable players.
No way. The only time I'm really-intently listening to my music is when it's in my portable. When it's on my computer it's just in the background. It would be so sweet not to have to transcode.
I've got an idea. Pretty much the reason IRiver won't do MPC support is because there is nothing in it for them. Personally, I would pay 20 bucks for a firmware with only good MPC support with APE 2 tagging and replaygain support. Just charge us for the download. Am I the only one that would shill out some money?
Peter Harris
Feb 3 2003, 11:00
QUOTE(torok @ Feb 3 2003 - 11:35 AM)
I've got an idea. Pretty much the reason IRiver won't do MPC support is because there is nothing in it for them.
Maybe a bigger issue is that Thomson won't license the patents to them for use in MPC. Why would they? They're trying to promote MP3/MP3Pro.
I've tried to push the idea of a paid firmware version for a long time (starting on the original (old) iriver forum).. but generally almost everyone was agains the idea. People complained that from their countries it would be impossible for them to pay and that even 10$ is too much, etc, etc. (10$ is TOO much? did they steal the player? cheapest imp costs >100$ USD... then why another 10$ is too much?). I guess the idea of paid firmware with "interesting" features is a good one and should be pushed upon iRiver, since this way some nice sound "improvement" algorithm could also be included (I've noticed that in small headphones all these virtual 3D algorithms improve the perception of the audio on the street). And sure MPC would be nice to have, but I guess we will never see it there... and I don't think any comercial company will open sources for firmware they they consider their point of advantage.
Think further !
All people, who like MPC,
should vote at that iRiver poll, and get an account there.
Even if you don't wanna play MPC on your portable !!!!!!!
and even if you do NOT own any iRiver / Soul / etc - Player
and you do NOT even plan to buy any portable in future !
Hej, I know, you will ask, what crap is user telling here ?!
I explain:
If MPC gets a lot votes (this IS DEPENDENT on YOU ! ) there at iRiver,
then iRiver might build in MPC support in players.
So, if they do it, other companies will follow, even the living-room-high-quality-stand-alone-players.
(well, "cheap-Chinese"-players do perfectly, if they have a digital out...)
Negative Zero
Feb 3 2003, 12:12
While I'd really like to see MPC support in the iRiver hardware, I'm not so sure about the idea of premium firmware at a cost. Once a single user pays up and buys it, what's to stop him or her from freely distributing the file to hundreds of other people?
QUOTE(Negative Zero @ Feb 3 2003 - 10:12 AM)
While I'd really like to see MPC support in the iRiver hardware, I'm not so sure about the idea of premium firmware at a cost. Once a single user pays up and buys it, what's to stop him or her from freely distributing the file to hundreds of other people?
Not a whole lot. But that's a problem with all software, and it still get's bought.
QUOTE(NumLOCK @ Feb 3 2003 - 01:21 AM)
QUOTE(westgroveg @ Feb 3 2003 - 09:18 AM)
IMO you won't hear much difference VS AP128 with a portable players.
It doesn't apply to me, at least. Depending on the music, the 128ish mp3 sound is obviously less clear (ie: softened) to me, even on little in-ear headphones.
I also hear the difference on my Slim-X even with it's cheap earphones
fireballuk2001
Feb 3 2003, 19:33
QUOTE
QUOTE (NumLOCK @ Feb 3 2003 - 01:21 AM)
QUOTE (westgroveg @ Feb 3 2003 - 09:18 AM)
IMO you won't hear much difference VS AP128 with a portable players.
It doesn't apply to me, at least. Depending on the music, the 128ish mp3 sound is obviously less clear (ie: softened) to me, even on little in-ear headphones.
I also hear the difference on my Slim-X even with it's cheap earphones
I also hear the difference on my very cheep goodmans cd based mp3 player with its cheap headphones... hell, i can also tell my transcodes from mpc extreme to lame --aps!
voted... also for the following...
Added Ogg Vorbis support to iRiver players
iFP series: usable as a standard USB drive w/o special File Manager Software
Clock
More flexible (better) bass on iRiver players
TETRIS (& other games)
add "track number - title" option in the display->tag information menu
DVD-Mp3 player from iRiver
Equalizer in FM mode
Add a cross fade feature much like the one in winamp
Add PIN-code protection against thief to iRiver players
Pixel to pixel scrolling (not character to character)
faster load up times
Have (OPTION) to make text smaller in navigation mode.
ssamadhi97
Feb 3 2003, 19:52
voted as well.
I don't feel like transcoding songs to mp3 every time I want to play them on a portable player..
but Open Source firmware or SDcard support would be sweet as well..
QUOTE(Artemis3 @ Feb 2 2003 - 06:00 PM)
Can't believe even tetris is voted higher. Tetris!?!? Get a gameboy!

Yup

,iRiver have games on their player,too (with lastest firmware) ,it's a classic games , RAN
Wow, mpc is in second place already.
DustMagnet
Feb 4 2003, 05:01
I voted for MPC. Encoding just once for both pc and portable would be nice indeed.
liekloo
Feb 4 2003, 06:00
Thanx for the link Mon!
Another vote for Musepack B)
(quality) MPC on iRiver DOES make sense IMHO:
the iRivers are not ordinary portable players from supermarket (so to say),
it can also serve as a non-portable reader (replace a (noisy) pc for reading),
and finally make MPC better known

so that it won't be forgotten by the time DVD players will be able to handle other codecs than just MP3...
Little Nemo
Feb 4 2003, 06:26
voted too
mpc : "I"ve seen the future and it works" B)
Volcano
Feb 4 2003, 14:17
QUOTE(Negative Zero @ Feb 3 2003 - 07:12 PM)
While I'd really like to see MPC support in the iRiver hardware, I'm not so sure about the idea of premium firmware at a cost. Once a single user pays up and buys it, what's to stop him or her from freely distributing the file to hundreds of other people?
I guess each iRiver player has its own hardware serial number? Then - in a perfect world

- the user would be prompted for his player's serial number when ordering the firmware online, and he'd receive an automatically compiled firmware which would only work with this particular serial number. I have no clue whether this is at all possible (since I gather the firmware must be compiled on a special non-PC platform), though...
Just signing up to vote for MPC, by the way.
you guys should also show your support by starting threads in the iriver forums requesting mpc support or replying it those already started
QUOTE(liekloo @ Feb 4 2003 - 04:00 AM)
Thanx for the link Mon!
Another vote for Musepack B)
Thank you all for voting.
....mpc
mmortal03
Feb 4 2003, 17:52
QUOTE(Volcano @ Feb 4 2003 - 02:17 PM)
QUOTE(Negative Zero @ Feb 3 2003 - 07:12 PM)
While I'd really like to see MPC support in the iRiver hardware, I'm not so sure about the idea of premium firmware at a cost. Once a single user pays up and buys it, what's to stop him or her from freely distributing the file to hundreds of other people?
I guess each iRiver player has its own hardware serial number? Then - in a perfect world

- the user would be prompted for his player's serial number when ordering the firmware online, and he'd receive an automatically compiled firmware which would only work with this particular serial number. I have no clue whether this is at all possible (since I gather the firmware must be compiled on a special non-PC platform), though...
Just signing up to vote for MPC, by the way.

the only downside to this would be for us users of SonicBlue RioVolts which are iRiver clones
hmm, the FWs are able to get converted to other brands,
eg. nearly latest iRIver FW was ported for AVC Soul DMP 01
QUOTE(user @ Feb 7 2003 - 09:58 AM)
hmm, the FWs are able to get converted to other brands,
eg. nearly latest iRIver FW was ported for AVC Soul DMP 01
Yes, but only because those two players are the same, but sold from different brands. The FW was not ported, but "converted" with a little program.
MachineHead
Feb 8 2003, 06:45
I voted for this as well. I also threw a link to this thread up on the Media Jukebox forum. There are a few who like MPC there, too.
I voted for "More flexible (better) bass on iRiver players".
I don't know if the problem are the original headphones that came with the player, but the sound quality is not as good as I expected.
I can hear some background noise when the bass gets louder, mainly in metal songs, even if encoded with --alt-preset extreme.
It makes no sense voting for MPC support if the sound quality is not perfect: You wouldn't notice the difference between mp3 and mpc.
*It makes no sense voting for MPC support if the sound quality is not perfect: You wouldn't notice the difference between mp3 and mpc. *
umm, voting for MPC makes sense, independent of sound quality (or other reasons) of a single IRIVER player.
Please go there and vote for MPC, too.
The reason I have written above:
It is important to get the first industrial MPC-player.
Then more support will follow.
Hej, you can vote for several issues.
Better bass / sound quality sounds like something iRiver would fix or improve regardless of votes.
Um... is your nick supposed to be your e-mail? I haven't gotten anything, and putting in my e-mail tells me I have an incorrect ID/pass.
One more vote for MPC/OGG, if I can register!
QUOTE(Moguta @ Feb 8 2003 - 09:03 AM)
Um... is your nick supposed to be your e-mail? I haven't gotten anything, and putting in my e-mail tells me I have an incorrect ID/pass.
One more vote for MPC/OGG, if I can register!

Your username is whatever u made it and your pass will be emailed to u.
Artemis3
Feb 8 2003, 15:42
QUOTE(DaveSimmons @ Feb 3 2003 - 03:22 AM)
I voted for FLAC and a DVD-based player -- think about 12 true-CD-quality CDs on one DVD-R, sweet!
How about a player for small sized (8cm) DVD/CDs? Soon everyone will own a DVD-R burner, that can be used to burn small sized discs, and a small sized DVD disc can hold 1.36GB of data (single layer/ single side). This coupled with MPC format support, would be very good indeed for a portable.
QUOTE(Artemis3 @ Feb 8 2003 - 01:42 PM)
How about a player for small sized (8cm) DVD/CDs? Soon everyone will own a DVD-R burner, that can be used to burn small sized discs, and a small sized DVD disc can hold 1.36GB of data (single layer/ single side). This coupled with MPC format support, would be very good indeed for a portable.

An 8cm DVD player with MPC support? Just thinking about it makes me come close to creaming myself.
de Mon
Feb 10 2003, 12:40
QUOTE(Artemis3 @ Feb 8 2003 - 01:42 PM)
Soon everyone will own a DVD-R burner, that can be used to burn small sized discs, and a small sized DVD disc can hold 1.36GB of data (single layer/ single side).
I am not going to buy DVD burner. So not everyone will have DVD burner
There is no need in DVD burner for me, and I think I'am not the one.
LordofStars
Feb 10 2003, 13:23
Everyone has a need for a dvd burner. It just depends on if you can afford it or not.
ChristianHJW
Feb 12 2003, 04:56
I voted for MPC and put an equivalent link to
http://corecoded.com.
With about 100 - 400 visitors being online constantly since the launch of the TCMP player we might get some extra votes

...
just voted!
Addition of MusePack (.mpc) support in iRiver players: 147
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