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mofonyx
I hope I'm posting in the right section. I've done a search to no avail (hopefully I haven't been too new about it, I searched for "AccurateRip").

This is my problem. I had EAC rip a CD on Test/Copy and the CRC test checks out to be correct. AccurateRip database tells me that my rips cannot be verified as accurate. Being a paranoid bitch, this bothers me.

Here is the logfile.
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Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 3 from 28. July 2007

EAC extraction logfile from 11. April 2008, 12:55

Radiohead / Hail To The Thief

Used drive  : _NEC    DVD+-RW ND-6650A   Adapter: 1  ID: 0

Read mode               : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache      : No
Make use of C2 pointers : No

Read offset correction                      : 48
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out          : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks   : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations       : Yes
Used interface                              : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling                                : Appended to previous track

Used output format              : User Defined Encoder
Selected bitrate                : 1024 kBit/s
Quality                         : High
Add ID3 tag                     : No
Command line compressor         : E:\Program Files\FLAC\flac.exe
Additional command line options : -6 -V -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" -T comment="%e" -T "comment=EAC (Secure Mode)" %s


TOC of the extracted CD

     Track |   Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector
    ---------------------------------------------------------
        1  |  0:00.00 |  3:19.27 |         0    |    14951  
        2  |  3:19.27 |  4:19.73 |     14952    |    34449  
        3  |  7:39.25 |  4:18.27 |     34450    |    53826  
        4  | 11:57.52 |  5:22.45 |     53827    |    78021  
        5  | 17:20.22 |  3:21.38 |     78022    |    93134  
        6  | 20:41.60 |  4:29.22 |     93135    |   113331  
        7  | 25:11.07 |  4:56.53 |    113332    |   135584  
        8  | 30:07.60 |  3:32.02 |    135585    |   151486  
        9  | 33:39.62 |  5:23.45 |    151487    |   175756  
       10  | 39:03.32 |  1:59.35 |    175757    |   184716  
       11  | 41:02.67 |  4:57.25 |    184717    |   207016  
       12  | 46:00.17 |  3:52.40 |    207017    |   224456  
       13  | 49:52.57 |  3:21.53 |    224457    |   239584  
       14  | 53:14.35 |  3:21.25 |    239585    |   254684  
       15  | 59:07.60 | 14:50.15 |    266085    |   332849  


Track  1

     Filename E:\CD Re-rips\Radiohead\Hail To The Thief\01-2 + 2 = 5 (The Lukewarm.).wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00

     Peak level 98.4 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 5E8EEC19
     Copy CRC 5E8EEC19
     Accurately ripped (confidence 13)  [73EF41AD]
     Copy OK

Track  2

     Filename E:\CD Re-rips\Radiohead\Hail To The Thief\02-Sit Down. Stand Up. (Snakes & Ladders.).wav

     Peak level 98.3 %
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC C11F8B9D
     Copy CRC C11F8B9D
     Accurately ripped (confidence 3)  [D726D075]
     Copy OK

Track  3

     Filename E:\CD Re-rips\Radiohead\Hail To The Thief\03-Sail to the Moon. (Brush the Cobwebs out of the Sky.).wav

     Peak level 98.3 %
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC B3752FCA
     Copy CRC B3752FCA
     Accurately ripped (confidence 14)  [8F4DC431]
     Copy OK

Track  4

     Filename E:\CD Re-rips\Radiohead\Hail To The Thief\04-Backdrifts. (Honeymoon Is Over.).wav

     Peak level 93.3 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 353F80F5
     Copy CRC 353F80F5
     Accurately ripped (confidence 8)  [5B53C846]
     Copy OK

Track  5

     Filename E:\CD Re-rips\Radiohead\Hail To The Thief\05-Go to Sleep. (Little Man being Erased.).wav

     Peak level 98.4 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC DD919960
     Copy CRC DD919960
     Accurately ripped (confidence 7)  [AF2A7839]
     Copy OK

Track  6

     Filename E:\CD Re-rips\Radiohead\Hail To The Thief\06-Where I End and You Begin. (The Sky is Falling in.).wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:00.34

     Peak level 98.4 %
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC C6C57FF8
     Copy CRC C6C57FF8
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 5)  [818A66D3], AccurateRip returned [C6143A91]
     Copy OK

Track  7

     Filename E:\CD Re-rips\Radiohead\Hail To The Thief\07-We suck Young Blood. (You Time is up.).wav

     Peak level 98.0 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC A629A6C9
     Copy CRC A629A6C9
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 3)  [827BB82C], AccurateRip returned [9C9FFFDA]
     Copy OK

Track  8

     Filename E:\CD Re-rips\Radiohead\Hail To The Thief\08-The Gloaming. (Softly Open out Mouths in the Cold.).wav

     Peak level 98.3 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 0E7B0B76
     Copy CRC 0E7B0B76
     Accurately ripped (confidence 4)  [82D556E5]
     Copy OK

Track  9

     Filename E:\CD Re-rips\Radiohead\Hail To The Thief\09-There there. (The Boney King of Nowhere.).wav

     Peak level 98.1 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 9A94051D
     Copy CRC 9A94051D
     Accurately ripped (confidence 4)  [86225627]
     Copy OK

Track 10

     Filename E:\CD Re-rips\Radiohead\Hail To The Thief\10-I will. (No man's Land.).wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:01.09

     Peak level 83.1 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC FA6A34C8
     Copy CRC FA6A34C8
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)  [D289A4C9], AccurateRip returned [EFCDB538]
     Copy OK

Track 11

     Filename E:\CD Re-rips\Radiohead\Hail To The Thief\11-A Punchup at a Wedding. (No no no no no no no no.).wav

     Peak level 98.6 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 24A843A2
     Copy CRC 24A843A2
     Accurately ripped (confidence 7)  [DC0BD326]
     Copy OK

Track 12

     Filename E:\CD Re-rips\Radiohead\Hail To The Thief\12-Myxomatosis. (Judge, Jury & Executioner).wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:00.84

     Peak level 98.3 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC B499092A
     Copy CRC B499092A
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [CD7DF818]
     Copy OK

Track 13

     Filename E:\CD Re-rips\Radiohead\Hail To The Thief\13-Scatterbrain. (As Dead as Leaves.).wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:00.77

     Peak level 98.4 %
     Track quality 99.8 %
     Test CRC AB221856
     Copy CRC AB221856
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 3)  [1B314F2D], AccurateRip returned [33FC8280]
     Copy OK

Track 14

     Filename E:\CD Re-rips\Radiohead\Hail To The Thief\14-A Wolf at the Door. (It Girl. Rag Doll.).wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:00.96

     Peak level 98.6 %
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC F7EECFD3
     Copy CRC F7EECFD3
     Accurately ripped (confidence 4)  [329D2CEB]
     Copy OK


0 track(s) accurately ripped
4 track(s) could not be verified as accurate

Some tracks could not be verified as accurate

No errors occurred

End of status report


What gives? Does it have something to do with the disc being "Copy Protected" ?
gib
QUOTE(mofonyx @ Apr 10 2008, 19:57) *

What gives? Does it have something to do with the disc being "Copy Protected" ?

That's certainly possible. The confidence levels on that disc are all over the place. Pretty weird. If at all possible, try ripping the disc on a totally different drive or drives and see what kind of results you get. Try burst mode, too, perhaps.

Edit: The type of copy protection might be useful information, if you can tell what it is.
greynol
QUOTE(mofonyx @ Apr 10 2008, 22:57) *
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0 track(s) accurately ripped
4 track(s) could not be verified as accurate

Some tracks could not be verified as accurate

OT - It's really supposed to say 10 tracks accurately ripped and 4 tracks can't be verified. This is a bug that will be fixed in the next release.

If you don't have a second drive to try out, in addition to gib's suggestion of burst mode, I'd also try ripping the tracks that can't be verified with the C2 error information setting enabled in conjunction with test and copy. I'm not sure how reliable the feature is with this drive, though NEC drives are reported to a decent job with newer models. If they are reliable and the track quality is 100% and you get the same CRC as with the other two settings then I'd say you've done the best you can with what you have.

With AR numbers all crazy like this I wouldn't take the non-verified results all that seriously.

I'm really not saying anything that gib hasn't already said and I also wouldn't rule out the possibility of copy protection and the disc apparently has a data track.
evereux
There were versions of this album that were indeed copy protected.
Mitch A
I've had similar results with a brand new CD straight out of the case.The first 11 tracks weren't present in AR and the last 4 only had cofidence of 1. Maybe people just ripped a couple of tracks and didn't bother with the rest?

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Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 4 from 23. January 2008

EAC extraction logfile from 29. March 2008, 1:31

Eagles / Hell Freezes Over

Used drive : HL-DT-STDVDRAM GSA-4165B Adapter: 1 ID: 0

Read mode : Burst

Read offset correction : 667
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations : Yes
Used interface : Installed external ASPI interface
Gap handling : Appended to previous track

Used output format : User Defined Encoder
Selected bitrate : 896 kBit/s
Quality : High
Add ID3 tag : No
Command line compressor : C:\Program Files\FLAC\flac.exe
Additional command line options : -V -6 -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" %s


TOC of the extracted CD

Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector
---------------------------------------------------------
1 | 0:00.00 | 3:31.25 | 0 | 15849
2 | 3:31.25 | 4:03.30 | 15850 | 34104
3 | 7:34.55 | 3:23.62 | 34105 | 49391
4 | 10:58.42 | 4:28.68 | 49392 | 69559
5 | 15:27.35 | 3:27.72 | 69560 | 85156
6 | 18:55.32 | 7:12.00 | 85157 | 117556
7 | 26:07.32 | 5:19.48 | 117557 | 141529
8 | 31:27.05 | 4:26.67 | 141530 | 161546
9 | 35:53.72 | 5:11.45 | 161547 | 184916
10 | 41:05.42 | 6:37.20 | 184917 | 214711
11 | 47:42.62 | 7:24.58 | 214712 | 248069
12 | 55:07.45 | 4:36.17 | 248070 | 268786
13 | 59:43.62 | 4:07.60 | 268787 | 287371
14 | 63:51.47 | 6:01.28 | 287372 | 314474
15 | 69:53.00 | 4:16.57 | 314475 | 333731


Track 1

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Mitchell\My Documents\My Music\FLAC\Eagles - Hell Freezes Over\01 - Get Over It.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:02.00

Peak level 99.8 %
Test CRC 797211CE
Copy CRC 797211CE
Track not present in AccurateRip database
Copy OK

Track 2

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Mitchell\My Documents\My Music\FLAC\Eagles - Hell Freezes Over\02 - Love Will Keep Us Alive.wav

Peak level 99.8 %
Test CRC 72F0A1C9
Copy CRC 72F0A1C9
Track not present in AccurateRip database
Copy OK

Track 3

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Mitchell\My Documents\My Music\FLAC\Eagles - Hell Freezes Over\03 - The Girl From Yesterday.wav

Peak level 99.8 %
Test CRC 584A11E4
Copy CRC 584A11E4
Track not present in AccurateRip database
Copy OK

Track 4

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Mitchell\My Documents\My Music\FLAC\Eagles - Hell Freezes Over\04 - Learn To Be Still.wav

Peak level 99.8 %
Test CRC 777A2405
Copy CRC 777A2405
Track not present in AccurateRip database
Copy OK

Track 5

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Mitchell\My Documents\My Music\FLAC\Eagles - Hell Freezes Over\05 - Tequila Sunrise.wav

Peak level 99.8 %
Test CRC A3DA5604
Copy CRC A3DA5604
Track not present in AccurateRip database
Copy OK

Track 6

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Mitchell\My Documents\My Music\FLAC\Eagles - Hell Freezes Over\06 - Hotel California.wav

Peak level 99.8 %
Test CRC 90B4829B
Copy CRC 90B4829B
Track not present in AccurateRip database
Copy OK

Track 7

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Mitchell\My Documents\My Music\FLAC\Eagles - Hell Freezes Over\07 - Wasted Time.wav

Peak level 99.8 %
Test CRC D2BA3F61
Copy CRC D2BA3F61
Track not present in AccurateRip database
Copy OK

Track 8

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Mitchell\My Documents\My Music\FLAC\Eagles - Hell Freezes Over\08 - Pretty Maids All In A Row.wav

Peak level 99.8 %
Test CRC CA64594C
Copy CRC CA64594C
Track not present in AccurateRip database
Copy OK

Track 9

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Mitchell\My Documents\My Music\FLAC\Eagles - Hell Freezes Over\09 - I Can't Tell You Why.wav

Peak level 99.8 %
Test CRC 075A277D
Copy CRC 075A277D
Track not present in AccurateRip database
Copy OK

Track 10

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Mitchell\My Documents\My Music\FLAC\Eagles - Hell Freezes Over\10 - New York Minute.wav

Peak level 99.8 %
Test CRC EBFE5353
Copy CRC EBFE5353
Track not present in AccurateRip database
Copy OK

Track 11

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Mitchell\My Documents\My Music\FLAC\Eagles - Hell Freezes Over\11 - The Last Resort.wav

Peak level 99.8 %
Test CRC 51FA0127
Copy CRC 51FA0127
Track not present in AccurateRip database
Copy OK

Track 12

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Mitchell\My Documents\My Music\FLAC\Eagles - Hell Freezes Over\12 - Take It Easy.wav

Peak level 99.8 %
Test CRC 98E627F1
Copy CRC 98E627F1
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 1) [2C1A4AEB], AccurateRip returned [E3F4629F]
Copy OK

Track 13

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Mitchell\My Documents\My Music\FLAC\Eagles - Hell Freezes Over\13 - In The City.wav

Peak level 99.8 %
Test CRC 8AF3B5B7
Copy CRC 8AF3B5B7
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 1) [B131AC12], AccurateRip returned [10FCC3B1]
Copy OK

Track 14

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Mitchell\My Documents\My Music\FLAC\Eagles - Hell Freezes Over\14 - Life In The Fast Lane.wav

Peak level 99.8 %
Test CRC DE5180A1
Copy CRC DE5180A1
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 1) [520BEF95], AccurateRip returned [9C6FF816]
Copy OK

Track 15

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Mitchell\My Documents\My Music\FLAC\Eagles - Hell Freezes Over\15 - Desperado.wav

Peak level 99.8 %
Test CRC 9B1D9317
Copy CRC 9B1D9317
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 1) [F3A241FE], AccurateRip returned [D0D79A35]
Copy OK


4 track(s) could not be verified as accurate
11 track(s) not present in the AccurateRip database

No tracks could be verified as accurate
You may have a different pressing from the one(s) in the database

No errors occurred

End of status report

spoon
QUOTE
Maybe people just


With a confidence of 1, it is a person and yes they might have only ripped the last tracks.
mofonyx
There is another drive to try it out, but it's just too tiresome to set up on my brother's computer.

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I tried ripping with a dBpoweramp trial and got the same results. meh.

Oh well. Thanks for the reply, guys.
Fandango
QUOTE(mofonyx @ Apr 12 2008, 19:32) *

There is another drive to try it out, but it's just too tiresome to set up on my brother's computer.
Get a cheap USB<->IDE adapter, they work ok with optical drives. When you're into ripping and possess several drives this is a very useful piece of hardware.
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