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jamesbaud
I noticed that the versions of FAAD & FAAC on Rarewares are outdated.
On Rarewares, it's FAAC 1.24.1 & FAAD2 is from 2004/07/09.

On Audiocoding.com, it's FAAC 1.26 @ FAAD2 2.6.1 from 2007/10/11.

I know everyone around here loves Nero & iTunes, but can someone post new Win32 versions? John33?

Thanks!

jb
WaldoMonster
I'm also interested in an up to date win32 compile of FAAD/FAAC.

Why are there no up to date win32 compiles on the internet?
Are there some license issues with FAAD/FAAC?

Thanks,

Willem
bug80
QUOTE(WaldoMonster @ Apr 21 2008, 22:27) *

I'm also interested in an up to date win32 compile of FAAD/FAAC.

Why are there no up to date win32 compiles on the internet?
Are there some license issues with FAAD/FAAC?

Thanks,

Willem

Yes:

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Source packages are available in the downloads section. No binary distributions are available here, because they require a patent license.
Ardax
Isn't one of the main devs behind FAAC/FAAD now working for Nero anyway? (menno, IIRC)
jamesbaud
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Source packages are available in the downloads section. No binary distributions are available here, because they require a patent license.


Pardon my ignorance of patent law, but how is FAAD/FAAC's situation different from LAME's? LAME binaries aren't available at Sourceforge, but they are at Rarewares.
Egor
QUOTE(Ardax @ Apr 22 2008, 19:57) *

Isn't one of the main devs behind FAAC/FAAD now working for Nero anyway? (menno, IIRC)

It's the AAC technology (PATENTED) related license, not the tool itself. AFAIR, Nero paid thousands of $$ in license fee to make their encoder freely available. BTW, many thanks for that!
menno
Nero is indeed paying a flat fee for the license to distribute the AAC encoder and decoder (that BTW both have absolutely nothing in common with FAAC and FAAD2).

It seems that the last couple of years distribution of AAC binaries on small scale and without attempt to make profit (with free players for example) hasn't been a problem for the licensing authority. However, they did send C&D letters in the past (to both me and sourceforge (and Rarewares too IIRC)) after which I promised not to distribute binaries anymore. I don't feel that I should start doing that again, just because it seems they don't care that much anymore.
But I wouldn't mind if a new binary would show up on Rarewares smile.gif


QUOTE(jamesbaud @ Apr 22 2008, 08:04) *

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Source packages are available in the downloads section. No binary distributions are available here, because they require a patent license.


Pardon my ignorance of patent law, but how is FAAD/FAAC's situation different from LAME's? LAME binaries aren't available at Sourceforge, but they are at Rarewares.


It's not. The quote comes from audiocoding.com, not from Rarewares. The question here is why the binary on Rarewares is so old.
Gabriel
QUOTE(menno @ Apr 22 2008, 23:33) *

Nero is indeed paying a flat fee for the license to distribute the AAC encoder and decoder (that BTW both have absolutely nothing in common with FAAC and FAAD2).


I always thought that Nero's AAC decoder was FAAD2. So you once again wrote another AAC decoder?
menno
QUOTE(Gabriel @ Apr 23 2008, 00:07) *

QUOTE(menno @ Apr 22 2008, 23:33) *

Nero is indeed paying a flat fee for the license to distribute the AAC encoder and decoder (that BTW both have absolutely nothing in common with FAAC and FAAD2).


I always thought that Nero's AAC decoder was FAAD2. So you once again wrote another AAC decoder?


Yes, this was needed for NeroMobile at the time, the new decoder uses much less memory (besides being much faster) and doesn't suffer from some design mistakes in FAAD2.
jamesbaud
QUOTE(menno @ Apr 22 2008, 15:33) *

It's not. The quote comes from audiocoding.com, not from Rarewares. The question here is why the binary on Rarewares is so old.


Does anyone have an answer for this?

Actually, I'm less interested in knowing why the binary on Rarewares is so old than in having the newest binary based on the latest source code made available on Rarewares (notwithstanding the wonderful job the Nero team has done, of course, in making available their version).
xmixahlx
i'm gonna take a wild guess and say it's because someone hasn't compiled a new version.
john33
Updated faac and faad2 win32 compiles now on Rarewares. smile.gif
jamesbaud
QUOTE(john33 @ Apr 29 2008, 07:32) *

Updated faac and faad2 win32 compiles now on Rarewares. smile.gif


Thank you!
lexor
QUOTE(john33 @ Apr 29 2008, 11:32) *

Updated faac and faad2 win32 compiles now on Rarewares. smile.gif

The one I have is 1.26.1 (from MeGUI), same version as the one on rarewares, but it's dated April 8 2007. Has there been no code change since then and you just build from old source? Or are there versioning shenanigans going on?
menno
I think (hope?) john33 build from the source packages and not from CVS. There have no notable code changes since then, except for FAAD2, which requires some more testing.

Thanks john33!
john33
QUOTE(menno @ Apr 29 2008, 18:53) *

I think (hope?) john33 build from the source packages and not from CVS. There have no notable code changes since then, except for FAAD2, which requires some more testing.

Thanks john33!

FAAD2 is built from the download package, as is FAAC. However, FAAC is modified to provide more flexibility in input via stdin, otherwise it's unchanged.
Antonski
QUOTE(john33 @ Apr 29 2008, 17:32) *

Updated faac and faad2 win32 compiles now on Rarewares. smile.gif

Would you please compile the Winamp plugin as well? Or there is no need maybe, if the Nullsoft plugin do the same (and more) job? Is that the case?
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Mike Giacomelli
QUOTE(menno @ Apr 23 2008, 10:48) *

QUOTE(Gabriel @ Apr 23 2008, 00:07) *

QUOTE(menno @ Apr 22 2008, 23:33) *

Nero is indeed paying a flat fee for the license to distribute the AAC encoder and decoder (that BTW both have absolutely nothing in common with FAAC and FAAD2).


I always thought that Nero's AAC decoder was FAAD2. So you once again wrote another AAC decoder?


Yes, this was needed for NeroMobile at the time, the new decoder uses much less memory (besides being much faster) and doesn't suffer from some design mistakes in FAAD2.


I've been meaning to take a look at FAAD2. Could you elaborate on the design mistakes?
CPKTV
QUOTE(john33 @ Apr 29 2008, 18:02) *
Updated faac and faad2 win32 compiles now on Rarewares. smile.gif


Thanks...
But what about libfaac.dll?
john33
QUOTE(CPKTV @ May 7 2008, 18:06) *

QUOTE(john33 @ Apr 29 2008, 18:02) *
Updated faac and faad2 win32 compiles now on Rarewares. smile.gif


Thanks...
But what about libfaac.dll?

Right now, the generated dll causes CDex and WinLAME to crash, so I need to investigate it.
menno
I'm pretty sure the interface was changed a lot without anyone taking care that the DLL would still work.
john33
QUOTE(menno @ May 7 2008, 19:30) *

I'm pretty sure the interface was changed a lot without anyone taking care that the DLL would still work.

Hmmmm, that rings a bell! I'll look a little closer when I have the time.
CPKTV
What about this?:

AAC Plugin for Adobe Audition
Download (349kB)

WaldoMonster
QUOTE(john33 @ Apr 29 2008, 16:32) *

Updated faac and faad2 win32 compiles now on Rarewares. smile.gif

Thanks very much fo the new compiles.


Curtor
QUOTE(CPKTV @ May 8 2008, 15:39) *
What about this?:AAC Plugin for Adobe Audition

+1 for an update of the cooledit/audition filter smile.gif
CPKTV
Cool Edit now is an ancient audio editor.☺☻☺
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