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SkripT2
Hi, not always I tag correctly the mp3 that i generate from my original CDs and I'm having a chaos in my media library. Could you please recommend me a good media library organizer with this features:
- Supports all variety of audio formats: MP3, MP4, WMA, FLAC, APE, WV, OGG, ...
- Detection and manually elimination of the duplicates using the tag information, the folder name and the file name, showing information of the files just like the bitrate of each file and its size.
- Detects if all the music files in a folder (album) have any problem with the tags: Not the same Artist, Album, Genre or Year. No Track order (if not could use the file name),...
- Detects tracks with its bitrate below a limiter (192kbps, for example)
- Fix files with invalid characters in its name or in the tags.

thanks.
Roseval
Won't say it will fullfill all your needs but have a look here: http://www.mp3tag.de/en/
I found it's scripting facilities very convenient
SkripT2
Thanks Roseval. I've used Mp3Tag for tagging many files, but I haven't found many of my requests. I would like something simpler, without scripting, not just for tagging but to detect the problems in the media library helping with its good organization.
eldino
QUOTE(SkripT2 @ May 3 2008, 14:05) *

Could you please recommend me a good media library organizer with this features:
1. Supports all variety of audio formats: MP3, MP4, WMA, FLAC, APE, WV, OGG, ...
2. Detection and manually elimination of the duplicates using the tag information, the folder name and the file name, showing information of the files just like the bitrate of each file and its size.
3. Detects if all the music files in a folder (album) have any problem with the tags: Not the same Artist, Album, Genre or Year. No Track order (if not could use the file name),...
4. Detects tracks with its bitrate below a limiter (192kbps, for example)
5. Fix files with invalid characters in its name or in the tags.


I think you need a external tagger + media organizer solution.
I tested all the organizer around (Amarok, Etoile, Listen, Rhythmbox, Musikcube, The Godfather, MM Jukebox..) but the best rests iTunes. Amarok fucks up everything, is unusable and it has a unusable interface. Listen, Etoile and Rhythmbox are poor as hell. Musikcube is cute, fast and it has got some advanced right-click features, but the search is painfully slow: i hope they will decide to update it soon, it's a really promising app. The Godfather has the usability of a kick in the balls.

If you want a pro library-based player and organizer, there is just one choice: iTunes.
Actually it does 1 (not natively, but via plugins), 2 and 4 (doing a simple smart playlist). I didnt understand what u exactly mean in the point #5.

Personally, I manage maniacally 700GB of music in mp3 format (with correct tags and embedded covers) using iTunes and it's the more advanced tool in the market. An example of what I mean when I say "maniacally": http://eldino.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/...u_by_eldino.jpg

I use iTunes since 5 years (Win before, now Mac version) and I didn't lose a rating or any information (thx to "Export library" thing). To rename files using my scheme of choice (track# Artist - Songtitle) i use the wonderful Tagscanner 5.0. To transcode stuff from exotic audio formats to mp3 i use the excellent (and FAST!) Foobar. To increase iTunes (for Mac) capabilities, I use some applescripts made by Doug Adams (amazing!). As folder gerarchy, I use Artist/(Year) Album/...


I hope i helped smile.gif
Regards,
-eldino





shakey_snake
QUOTE(SkripT2 @ May 3 2008, 09:05) *

Hi, not always I tag correctly the mp3 that i generate from my original CDs and I'm having a chaos in my media library. Could you please recommend me a good media library organizer with this features:

Hi. I actually think foobar2000 could preform all of these things, however, depending on the amount of automation you require you may or may not find it useful.

QUOTE(SkripT2 @ May 3 2008, 09:05) *

- Supports all variety of audio formats: MP3, MP4, WMA, FLAC, APE, WV, OGG, ...
as long as your WMA files aren't protected, yep.
QUOTE(SkripT2 @ May 3 2008, 09:05) *

- Detection and manually elimination of the duplicates using the tag information, the folder name and the file name, showing information of the files just like the bitrate of each file and its size.
You could sort a playlist by whatever criteria you want and find duplicates that way. Depending on the size of your library, this might even be faster than using one of the dedicated programs that does this.

QUOTE(SkripT2 @ May 3 2008, 09:05) *

- Detects if all the music files in a folder (album) have any problem with the tags: Not the same Artist, Album, Genre or Year. No Track order (if not could use the file name),...
This is something the Facets component is good at showing.
Also, using %path_sort% and a grouping pattern in the playlist can display discrepancies rather quickly.

QUOTE(SkripT2 @ May 3 2008, 09:05) *

- Detects tracks with its bitrate below a limiter (192kbps, for example)

add the bitrate column, load your entire library into the playlist, and click the bitrate column header.
QUOTE(SkripT2 @ May 3 2008, 09:05) *

- Fix files with invalid characters in its name or in the tags.
Something foobar's very good at. you can use the $ascii() command in a masstagger script or "Format form Other Fields..." and "Rename to..." dialogs to remove non-ascii characters.


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Another advantage foobar has is that it is blazingly fast at handling large quantities of files, especially once they are imported into the media library.

My experience with most dedicated tagging programs is that they are often stupidly slow, like doing something simple like browsing a different folder can require reloading that entire directories contents. sad.gif
Steven123
Maybe this would be of help:

http://easytag.sourceforge.net/

Also, in foobar you could try: foo_discogs component
SkripT2
Many thanks. Itunes has a good method to find duplicates. The problem is that it can't read all the formats. For example, I ripped an album in MP3 and later in FLAC. Obviously I want to know it for delete the MP3 album. Moreover I think it can't work in a folder basis to manage the media library (just like Winamp). So if in any of the songs in a folder (album) the Album tag is missing, this song would appear as a Anonymouse album and it's difficult to fix it in this way. Foobar could help me tagging the albums correctly but I think that without a good script it would be a hard process. Although the ascii function would be very useful. I need some more automatic process for tagging correctly all the files in the same folder as I've mentioned above, detecting the possible album duplications and the albums with all the tracks below a bitrate. That's it. Let's see if easytag could help. I think that with a good masstagging script, foobar could do the trick too but seems a bit difficult to program dry.gif
Teknojnky
There is no magic solution for all your requests, but good luck in your search.
eldino
QUOTE(SkripT2 @ May 3 2008, 18:51) *

So if in any of the songs in a folder (album) the Album tag is missing, this song would appear as a Anonymouse album and it's difficult to fix it in this way.


u have to uncheck the option, in the Preferences, that organizes your music for you.
Uncheck that and iTunes will not touch nor rename anything smile.gif
SkripT2
Thanks eldino and all the other people ho has posted their opinion to help me. Itunes seems the player with the best media organizer (maybe best than the newest Winamp). Which I miss from Itunes is that you can't choose the sound card to use. I have to sound cards installed on my PC and the default one is the cheaper sad.gif

Edit: I've found that in Quicktime 6.X is possible biggrin.gif
Roseval
QUOTE(SkripT2 @ May 5 2008, 23:06) *

Thanks eldino and all the other people ho has posted their opinion to help me. Itunes seems the player with the best media organizer (maybe best than the newest Winamp). Which I miss from Itunes is that you can't choose the sound card to use. I have to sound cards installed on my PC and the default one is the cheaper sad.gif

What happens if you go to configuration > sound and choose the best one as the default?
SkripT2
Simply I don't want that the noisy sounds of windows played in my hifi speakers smile.gif I only want to hear music through them
tgoose
I doubt you're going to find a player on any platform that gets closer to doing all of this than foobar2000 does.
eldino
QUOTE(tgoose @ May 6 2008, 00:45) *

I doubt you're going to find a player on any platform that gets closer to doing all of this than foobar2000 does.


He's asking for a library-based organizer, not a player with advanced features. Foobar is great (pity thare is not a version for Mac :-/), but neither using ColumnUI it could be compared to iTunes or other library-based players. Foobar is a Winamp-killer smile.gif
SkripT2
Unfortunatelly itunes 7 (Quicktime 7) doesn't let me change the sound card to use. In Quicktime 6 is possible so I would have to use itunes 4. But i like the media organizer in itunes 7 with its album art and even its sound. Maybe I'm the only person that likes more the sound from itunes 7 than foobar... If you know some way/fix/hack to redirect the output from itunes 7 or running itunes 7 with Quicktime 6 I would be very pleased to know it. Thanks.
Roseval
Can iTunes play FLAC?
boombaard
QUOTE
He's asking for a library-based organizer, not a player with advanced features. Foobar is great (pity thare is not a version for Mac :-/), but neither using ColumnUI it could be compared to iTunes or other library-based players.


have you had a look at foobar since .95 and facets came on the scene?
SkripT2
QUOTE(Roseval @ May 6 2008, 15:10) *

Can iTunes play FLAC?


Not Native Flac, Flac on an Ogg conatiner
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