shadowking
Jul 10 2008, 12:46
Seems like original pressings of 80's albums are dissappearing fast. Classic sounding stuff that should never be touched like maiden, priest, queensryche, whitesnake .. all REMASTERED - whoopy ! Well this new generation of people can cream themselves silly while I'll take that second hand cheap original that people are selling fast.
Now is the chance, grab them quick, grab them cheap before they all go.
retro83
Jul 10 2008, 12:54
...and by 'remaster' they mean taking the master and putting it through a +10dB hardlimiter. Brilliant.
Pestilence.
Jul 12 2008, 19:50
I'm disturbed by the sam thing too.
While some remasters are tasty.. The others are unbearable.
I noticed that a lot of remasters are made to sound better on cheaper systems, and in effect, they don't sound as good on a quality system as the original. Too much compression I think.
Neasden
Jul 12 2008, 20:03
There must be an explanation for such stupidity? I still don't understand the same excuse "the band and mixing engineer really liked the sound".
Pestilence.
Jul 12 2008, 20:32
Sometimes, when CD supply is running low, some bands decide to make some more copies, and some bands to make a re-mastered version. Sadly, the band doesn't have much word about it.. It's the industry that is in need of more money, so they make a remaster, that sounds better on cheaper systems. They usually add some bass, treble, and sometimes.. They over-compress. That's sad.
But still, there are some good remasters out there.
Neasden
Jul 12 2008, 20:41
One example of that is JARRE's Oxygene 2007 Remaster. The original album from 1976 is like +1.00dB. The new remaster is about -8.50dB. But listening to the album, you do notice that the man touched the sound. The mixing is different, more ambient and spatial effects, the stereo is really more pleasant. I think this is one instance I would prefer the remaster over the original. I am coping all right with CD's at -8.00dB but -10.00/-12.00 are really really blown up.
That all amazingly reminds me the South Park episode where Spielberg wanted to re-release every classic movie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Hat
QUOTE (Pestilence. @ Jul 12 2008, 19:50)

[...] they don't sound as good on a quality system as the original. Too much compression I think.
...and the understatement of the decade goes to....
They sound
horrible compared to the original.
This thread is useless without samples.
QUOTE (Neasden @ Jul 12 2008, 21:41)

One example of that is JARRE's Oxygene 2007 Remaster. The original album from 1976 is like +1.00dB. The new remaster is about -8.50dB. But listening to the album, you do notice that the man touched the sound. The mixing is different, more ambient and spatial effects, the stereo is really more pleasant.
I understand it is not remaster but a completely new recording.
Neasden
Jul 12 2008, 23:35
QUOTE
I understand it is not remaster but a completely new recording.
The stereo version I doubt it's a new recording, maybe the "live" performance on DVD and the 5.1 mixes. The stereo version is exactly the same thing but more enhanced.
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