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menno
We just released a new version of our command line AAC encoder, decoder and MPEG-4 tagger applications on our website.
The download can be found here: http://www.nero.com/eng/downloads-nerodigi...o-aac-codec.php

EDIT: New link: http://www.nero.com/eng/downloads-nerodigi...o-aac-codec.php
EDIT2: Now the download can also be found directly from here: http://www.nero.com/eng/support-downloads.html

Release notes for version 1.3.3.0:

neroAacEnc:
  • Improved multichannel encoding
  • Solved compatibility issues with some hardware devices
  • Improved CBR bitrate control
  • Ignore wave file length of 0 on -ignorelength
  • Solved issue with very long files and -2pass
  • Removed special SSE compile, all optimizations have been merged with the normal compile
  • Linux version speed optimized
  • Encoder exits gracefully and writes valid MP4 file on ctrl+c
neroAacDec:
  • Fixed incorrect channel output for 7.1 encodings
neroAacTag:
  • Linux version available
(Sly)
Nice changes, but why not SSE?? Not faster than standard build?
PHOYO
QUOTE ((Sly) @ Sep 23 2008, 17:54) *
Nice changes, but why not SSE?? Not faster than standard build?


Maybe because all optimizations have been merged with the normal compile?
Selindos
WOW! Super!
Thank you Nero AG!!! laugh.gif
muaddib
QUOTE (PHOYO @ Sep 23 2008, 17:01) *
Maybe because all optimizations have been merged with the normal compile?

Correct. Special SSE version wouldn't produce any advantage.
ozmosis82
Does this release resolve the previous version's issue? Has any tweaking been done to the q's/bitrates?
Alexxander
Thanks for making available a free downloadable version.

¿There's no audio quality enhancement included in this version?
muaddib
QUOTE (ozmosis82 @ Sep 23 2008, 18:05) *
Does this release resolve the previous version's issue? Has any tweaking been done to the q's/bitrates?

We also tried to address issues with this file and hope that there is enough improvement.
menno
QUOTE (Alexxander @ Sep 23 2008, 09:20) *
¿There's no audio quality enhancement included in this version?


Multichannel encoding quality was improved. There were a bunch of quality related bugfixes that were made. We did some tuning on low bitrate LC AAC ( <= 128kbps).
halb27
Thank you, Nero devs.
ozmosis82
QUOTE (muaddib @ Sep 23 2008, 10:31) *
We also tried to address issues with this file and hope that there is enough improvement.

QUOTE (menno @ Sep 23 2008, 10:39) *
Multichannel encoding quality was improved. There were a bunch of quality related bugfixes that were made. We did some tuning on low bitrate LC AAC ( <= 128kbps).

Excellent news! Thanks gang! Keep up the great work!
houyhnhnm
aoTuV, LAME and Nero!

Their improvements are different, but we have 3 new versions this month. laugh.gif
/mnt
Wow, I had a feeling that a new version of Nero AAC might be released today.
weaker
A big "Thank you!" to the Nero devs! emot-toot.gif
wortels
is there any switch to stop adding the CDEC comment to tags?
Enig123
Really thanks for this great free aac codec.

You guys are awesome.
bt_escm.9
thanks Nero devs, been waiting for this
dbAmp
Thanks! Keep up the good work (fight)!

I'll hopefully be able to do some ABX testing this weekend.

EDIT: Works great with my 2nd gen iPod Shuffle and iTunes 8. smile.gif
jmcguckin
ya, this might be the best audio-related news I've heard all year... especially since just earlier today I decided to install XP on my iMac just so I could toy around with foobar2000/Nero AAC again. thanks for all the hard work guys, much appreciated!
menno
QUOTE (aliumalik @ Sep 23 2008, 15:20) *
is there any switch to stop adding the CDEC comment to tags?


No there isn't, is there a specific reason why you want this?
You can use neroAacTag to remove it.
wortels
QUOTE (menno @ Sep 24 2008, 08:13) *
QUOTE (aliumalik @ Sep 23 2008, 15:20) *

is there any switch to stop adding the CDEC comment to tags?


No there isn't, is there a specific reason why you want this?
You can use neroAacTag to remove it.

The only problem is it adds one extra step to encoding/copying...besides the information it adds can still be found out i.e. without tags
Squeller
Ah, an old problem which was affecting me pretty often, where the encoder chose too low bitrate at silent parts, seems to have been fixed smile.gif
disgustipated
Thanks guys once again for a new release of this fantastic encoder !!
It's a great contribution to our community.
Cheers !!
Livy
Downloaded last night. Thanks, guys!
drbeachboy
QUOTE (aliumalik @ Sep 23 2008, 23:18) *
QUOTE (menno @ Sep 24 2008, 08:13) *

QUOTE (aliumalik @ Sep 23 2008, 15:20) *

is there any switch to stop adding the CDEC comment to tags?


No there isn't, is there a specific reason why you want this?
You can use neroAacTag to remove it.

The only problem is it adds one extra step to encoding/copying...besides the information it adds can still be found out i.e. without tags
I think that adding the CDEC tag is a great thing. I like the idea of being able to see my encoder settings.While I know that %__tool% will show the codec and version and %codec% to show LC, but where else in the tags can you see the settings (i.e. -q 0.45)?
frozenspeed
Thanks!!! This is awesome!!

Anyone notice the new codec is slower than the last release? I'm not complaining at all, I'll sacrifice some speed for some quality smile.gif
IgorC
Great news.
I will try to do some blind tests around Nero vs Apple AAC encoders.
macman4hire
IgorC what bitrates and methods of encoding do you plan to test? I would like to hear about your results!
IgorC
ABC/HR at VBR approx. 96 kbit/s
I will post results. At the same time I'm more interesting in public test.
MetalMessiah78
Awesome. Thanks for the release, Nero. Anyone done any ABX tests of old Nero encoder against new Nero encoder and a lossless file?
smok3
thanks!
q: is there any speciall difference in command line? (do i need to rebuilt my scripts)
InspectorGadget
Thank you for this great encoder. I've been using it to encode for my iPod and using it in MeGUI to transcode DVD audio tracks and it has been great so far.
menno
QUOTE (smok3 @ Sep 25 2008, 06:05) *
thanks!
q: is there any speciall difference in command line? (do i need to rebuilt my scripts)


Nothing changed there
audioadam
Thanks for the new release - Nero AAC has actually become my main lossy codec since March of 08!

I'll have to give the new version a whirl and see how it sounds.
randal1013
i'm confused about the command line options and bitrates. i just tried "-br 128" which resulted in 12kbps, i then tried "-br128" which resulted in ~190kbps. what's going on?


i'm using foobar 0.9.5.5, and the latest nero codec.
MuncherOfSpleens
QUOTE (randal1013 @ Sep 25 2008, 22:45) *
i'm confused about the command line options and bitrates. i just tried "-br 128" which resulted in 12kbps, i then tried "-br128" which resulted in ~190kbps. what's going on?

The encoder is expecting bits per second, not kilobits per second.
randal1013
ok, i figured out what i need to enter, thanks.
Enig123
QUOTE (randal1013 @ Sep 26 2008, 11:13) *
so what am i supposed to put to get my target bitrate?


-br 128000 of course. wink.gif
MuncherOfSpleens
“-br 128000” should work.

Edit: Enig123 beat me to it. smile.gif
kornchild2002
Thanks for this release, I have been waiting for it ever since I found out that Creative Zen and Xbox 360 compatibility issues would be fixed. My only problem now is that I have a 2008 Honda Civic LX coupe whose built-in 6 disc CD deck supports standard audio CDs, user burned audio CDs (on either CD-R or CD-RW), WMA discs (on either CD-R or CD-RW), and mp3 discs (on either CD-R or CD-RW). My new car does not support AAC CDs/drives like my older car did.

So now I am sticking with Lame. I might have to purchase the iPod control unit from my dealership in order to use AAC though.
muaddib
QUOTE (kornchild2002 @ Sep 26 2008, 06:32) *
Thanks for this release, I have been waiting for it ever since I found out that Creative Zen and Xbox 360 compatibility issues would be fixed. My only problem now is that I have a 2008 Honda Civic LX coupe whose built-in 6 disc CD deck supports standard audio CDs, user burned audio CDs (on either CD-R or CD-RW), WMA discs (on either CD-R or CD-RW), and mp3 discs (on either CD-R or CD-RW). My new car does not support AAC CDs/drives like my older car did.
So now I am sticking with Lame. I might have to purchase the iPod control unit from my dealership in order to use AAC though.

We hope that you'll give new encoder a try even if you don't get iPod control unit wink.gif
Your findings were very helpful.
weaker
@frozenspeed:
I didn't measure it but to me the new version didn't feel slower. Even on the contrary I had the impression that it got even faster.
frozenspeed
QUOTE (weaker @ Sep 26 2008, 10:26) *
@frozenspeed:
I didn't measure it but to me the new version didn't feel slower. Even on the contrary I had the impression that it got even faster.



Yea, it was me being an idiot actually- I'd post results bt there's really no point. I was distracted and overlooked that I was doing some intensive stuff in the background. When the codec gets all the resources it wants I can get 2 threads going around 41x smile.gif
micmac
For now I'll keep using the Windows binary with Wine instead of the native Linux binary smile.gif

CODE
sk@jigsaw:~$ time neroAacEnc -q 0.39 -lc -if 09.\ Suicide\ \&\ Redemption\ -\ Metallica.wav -of 09.\ Suicide\ \&\ Redemption\ -\ Metallica.m4a
*************************************************************
*                                                           *
*  Nero AAC Encoder                                         *
*  Copyright 2008 Nero AG                                   *
*  All Rights Reserved Worldwide                            *
*                                                           *
*  Package build date: Sep 17 2008                          *
*  Package version:    1.3.3.0                              *
*                                                           *
*  See -help for a complete list of available parameters.   *
*                                                           *
*************************************************************

Processed 597 seconds...

real    1m37.398s
user    1m20.873s
sys    0m0.708s
sk@jigsaw:~$ time wine neroAacEnc -q 0.39 -lc -if 09.\ Suicide\ \&\ Redemption\ -\ Metallica.wav -of 09.\ Suicide\ \&\ Redemption\ -\ Metallica.m4a
*************************************************************
*                                                           *
*  Nero AAC Encoder                                         *
*  Copyright 2008 Nero AG                                   *
*  All Rights Reserved Worldwide                            *
*                                                           *
*  Package build date: Sep 17 2008                          *
*  Package version:    1.3.3.0                              *
*                                                           *
*  See -help for a complete list of available parameters.   *
*                                                           *
*************************************************************

Processed 597 seconds...

real    1m1.443s
user    0m52.747s
sys    0m0.800s
sk@jigsaw:~$
skamp
Same observation on my Atom N270 running Arch Linux (the win32 binary with wine runs faster than the linux binary). Maybe you could try making static binaries with Intel's compiler?

Edit: same with my Phenom 9600.
sketchy_c
Just a note that the download link in the initial post didn't work for me. I found the codec here: http://www.nero.com/eng/downloads-nerodigi...o-aac-codec.php

Thanks again for all the work you put into this. Definitely my AAC of choice.
menno
Thanks for posting that link sketchy_c, I updated the first post.
Sylph
How come that Nero 9 has less customizations for output formats for ripping CDs?
lifers5555
Hmm, I'm experiencing a problem playing back 6 (5.1) channel sound with libfaad2 (in the latest ffdshow) and the built in AAC decoder in Media Player Classic encoded with the new 1.3.3.0 codec. Everything has an odd underwater echo.

The problem doesn't occur with the latest version of Winamp and in_mp4.dll

The problem doesn't occur with any of the above programs with 2 channel.

See http://pcdom.com.au/neroaac/ for examples.

Thanks,

Dom.
hiten
Thank you very much for this new version.

I'd like to inform you that the release notes page hasn't been updated
http://www.nero.com/eng/nda-release-notes.html
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