I moved the post for you. It might be worth noting that ripping is generally assumed to be lossless unless there are problems or you're encoding to lossy.

Hi,
I was looking into lossless backup when I was using Windows. I found EAC. I liked how it would rip images with the pregap for all the tracks. Then, if I wanted, I could burn back the CDExtra stuff. I liked this especially with Mmhmm by Relient K which had a pregap before the first track and CDExtra stuff.

Then EAC could burn pregap on the first track. The I could burn the CD extra with Nero.

Call me obsessive if you want, but I want perfect copies. EAC seemed to deliver.

Now I have moved to Linux. I really don't want to run Wine. Yes, it has gotten better, but I just don't want to run Windows software. What can I use to rip my CD's in Linux to a perfect copy?

I don't care if I need to use an alternate codec.

Now, what can I use to burn the backups made in linux with pregap and preferably with the CDExtra stuff too? I already have Nero Linux if it will help.

Thanks a lot,
-Belak

EDIT:
IDK if I posted this in the right forum... sorry.

Hello Belak. I have been looking into this subject for the last year or so. There is Rubyripper. See here http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Rubyripper It is the closest thing I have found to EAC test and copy mode, but still no Accuraterip. I have used both EAC and dBpoweramp via Wine in Ubuntu and both seemed to work fine. Small quirks compared to running in Windows, but they both work ok. I personally dual boot and just revert back to Windows so I can take full advantage of dBpoweramp's tagging features (one of those small quirks I was talking about).

Does it work to burn inside of wine?

Hello all,

I'm pleased to announce the release of cdparanoia 10.2. This is the
first release in several years to involve substantial new development
as opposed to simply 'keeping up' and vetting/adding contributed
patches.

In addition to regression testing and bugfixes, 10.2 includes major
drive cache handling improvements over previous versions. The short
story is that a sizable fraction of new cdrom drives that have
appeared since the last major read model update (in 2001) exhibit
cache behaviors or weirdnesses of which previous cdparanoia versions
are partly or fully unaware. These drives, when they skip, stand a
good chance of having the skip or glitch make it through verification
undetected because cdparanoia was not successfully defeating the
drive's data cache. 10.2 implements an improved caching model that
eliminates all the new cache behaviors I've observed.

IN SUMMARY: 10.2 ADDRESSES RIP CORRECTNESS ISSUES. YOU WANT TO UPGRADE.

10.2 also includes a nifty cache analysis utility via the -A option.
This runs an offline cache analysis of the drive, printing a summary
to the screen and dumping a detailed log to 'cdparanoia.log' in the
event that the test finds a problem, or cdparanoia is acting up in
some other way.

As always, the release can be downloaded from http://www.xiph.org/paranoia/

Cheers,
Monty
xiph.org

I simply use Soundjuicer. Not sexy, but gets the job done. Uses, as pretty much all apps, cdparanoia, so I assume all is OK.

Older versions are simply unreliable if your drive caches audio.

Well as i said, if your drive doesn't cache audio data, there is nothing to worry about. (and -A should tell its OK as well). The problem is when your drive caches audio AND cdparanoia -A tells you there is a problem (in which case it logs a text file you can send to Monty). With older versions, if the drive caches audio you are not getting reliable data. With 10.2, you get reliable data only if the -A test passes OK.

This means a good number of (audio caching) drives which used to be unreliable with older versions, can now rip safely. It would be of interest to build a database of them, or extend an existing one, such as http://www.daefeatures.co.uk to include a column with "Cdparanoia -A tests OK".

Because cdparanoia is so extensively used, and many could be doing rips with bad results without knowing until its too late and have to rerip their entire collection again...