Full Version: EAC strange read error
So I got a used CD today(originally released in 1990) and was in flawless condition. Not a scratch on the thing. The jewel case was in mint condition and it was indeed an original release. So I decided to use EAC to try and rip it to FLAC so I could archive. But when trying to copy the songs, I would get a read error and it wouldn't copy any tracks at all. At first I thought it was copyright issues but I realised that they probably didn't have that technology at that time. What could be the problem?
have you tried a different drive?
QUOTE (d_headshot @ Oct 5 2009, 00:24) 
So I got a used CD today(originally released in 1990) and was in flawless condition. Not a scratch on the thing. The jewel case was in mint condition and it was indeed an original release. So I decided to use EAC to try and rip it to FLAC so I could archive. But when trying to copy the songs, I would get a read error and it wouldn't copy any tracks at all. At first I thought it was copyright issues but I realised that they probably didn't have that technology at that time. What could be the problem?
There are lots of CDs with manufactoring defects around. And, "originally released in 1990" does not necessarily mean pressed then. Some companies didn't even tell they were selling defective by design-discs.
Try different drive and/or different ripping application (my primary is dBpoweramp reference, and then EAC).
Try burst mode and see if you can get accurate results comparing with AccurateRip db
Edit: eventually trying burst mode while setting drive speed low (e.g. 4x)
Edit: eventually trying burst mode while setting drive speed low (e.g. 4x)
I don't know what it is but my past two more modern drives Plextor then Sony NEC Optiarc have issues loading a small handful of discs in my collection let alone ripping them, and all are older 1990's era discs. However placing them in my much older TEAC drive from 2003 allows them to be recognized and ripped. Possibly drive issues coupled with disc issues.
d_headshot: you could try my rev speed lowering trick.. below is a reply I made in another topic.
Sounds a bit like my problem with one CD. Check the following post I made: Strange problem reading a CD accurately, balance problem?, it's a link straight to the solution/explanation (check the first post in that topic if you want to know more). Try the Nero DiscSpeed rev speed lowering trick I used with my CD successfully. Don't trust the EAC "select speed" option at all.. what I've seen myself and read elsewhere, it's quite odd and doesn't seem to be working for some.. and besides, that's for lowering the "read speed", not the "revving speed" which helped in my case. I.e. EAC could read your CD with e.g. very slow 0.2X read speed but it might rev up the drive up to the maximum speed at the same time.
Some CD's are just either badly manufactured and/or sensitive to high speed (revving) reading of CD's. I've seen this happen with "Acid Jazz" label released CD's (e.g. JTQ, Corduroy).. even the production quality of the front & back covers were sometimes really bad (e.g. back cover spine text alignment gone awry, back cover protruding out of the spine, etc.).
I just ripped a brand new 1989 pressed "ride the lightning" CD and EAC started to error with the last 2 tracks in secure mode when my drive was revving very fast. As soon as EAC lowered the rev speed (fortunately EAC does this sometimes automatically), the read errors went away. First I tried burst rip, 7th track failed AR. Maybe old CD's and "new" fast revving drives are not very compatible.
HTH.. if it does, please check back and let us know.. I'm interested to hear if anyone is able to use this trick too.
QUOTE (Akkurat @ Sep 26 2009, 00:14)
QUOTE (Chinch @ Sep 23 2009, 08:17)
i have successfully ripped this SAME physical cd on my previous computer, with no errors... so i'm quite positive the CD itself isn't bad.
Sounds a bit like my problem with one CD. Check the following post I made: Strange problem reading a CD accurately, balance problem?, it's a link straight to the solution/explanation (check the first post in that topic if you want to know more). Try the Nero DiscSpeed rev speed lowering trick I used with my CD successfully. Don't trust the EAC "select speed" option at all.. what I've seen myself and read elsewhere, it's quite odd and doesn't seem to be working for some.. and besides, that's for lowering the "read speed", not the "revving speed" which helped in my case. I.e. EAC could read your CD with e.g. very slow 0.2X read speed but it might rev up the drive up to the maximum speed at the same time.
Some CD's are just either badly manufactured and/or sensitive to high speed (revving) reading of CD's. I've seen this happen with "Acid Jazz" label released CD's (e.g. JTQ, Corduroy).. even the production quality of the front & back covers were sometimes really bad (e.g. back cover spine text alignment gone awry, back cover protruding out of the spine, etc.).
I just ripped a brand new 1989 pressed "ride the lightning" CD and EAC started to error with the last 2 tracks in secure mode when my drive was revving very fast. As soon as EAC lowered the rev speed (fortunately EAC does this sometimes automatically), the read errors went away. First I tried burst rip, 7th track failed AR. Maybe old CD's and "new" fast revving drives are not very compatible.
HTH.. if it does, please check back and let us know.. I'm interested to hear if anyone is able to use this trick too.
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