WaldoMonster
Mar 17 2003, 07:38
This is nice:
MusePack SV4-SV7 decoding/playback only
http://neroplugins.cd-rw.org/
-Nepomuk-
Mar 17 2003, 07:42
Shit, i'am to slow!
I've tested it a few minutes ago and it works for playback and burning mpc on cd.
fine. but i have to decode it first, on the fly doesn't work for me.
any other experiences?
WaldoMonster
Mar 17 2003, 07:55
On the first test with a 12speed rewritable you can burn on the fly with a Celeron 1300.
It takes between 10..20% processor time.
Looks like no problem to burn faster on the fly.
-Nepomuk-
Mar 17 2003, 08:00
yes.
i've re-installed nero and now it works. on the fly with 40x is no problem
Who knows if there is MPC SDK? And where is it...
I'm writing this becouse I read this on site:
QUOTE
I'm still looking for encoder source code(I already found decoder source code) for MusePack(also known as MPEG-plus/MPC/MPP/MP+). If you have any information on the encoder source code or SDK, please let me know.
rjamorim
Mar 17 2003, 08:12
QUOTE(cpu @ Mar 17 2003 - 11:09 AM)
Who knows if there is MPC SDK? And where is it...
There isn't.
Heh, this rocks!
I just ran a simulation and "determine maximum speed". My Athlon 1333 allows for 32x speeds. Actual decoding speed fluctuates around 36x.
Just one concern: Are the licensing issues about this and the other PlugIns offered on the site cleared?
AFAIK mppdec is licensed under the GPL, which requires all derived works to be released under it too.
Other used sources are licensed under similiar or the same license.
Another question is why he used the outdated 1.1 decoder source and not the better/more stable 1.9x version?
dev0
rjamorim
Mar 17 2003, 12:12
QUOTE(dev0 @ Mar 17 2003 - 01:59 PM)
AFAIK mppdec is licensed under the GPL, which requires all derived works to be released under it too.
Other used sources are licensed under similiar or the same license.
mppdec is LGPLd. The license was changed so that it could be distributed with MediaJukebox.
But FAAD2 is GPLd - what theoretically forces the author to release, at least, the AAC plugin sources.
If he only links to mppdec (AFAIK not possible, since there is no libmppdec) and doesn't utilize/modify the source directly it would be legal, otherwise he is still violating the GPL.
dev0
R.A.F.
Mar 17 2003, 12:58
QUOTE(dev0 @ Mar 17 2003 - 05:59 PM)
Another question is why he used the outdated 1.1 decoder source and not the better/more stable 1.9x version?
Maybe someone should tell Mausau, that v1.9x is better than v1.1. It seems, that he is not that related with MPC at all, as he posted it as "MPC/MPP/MP+"?
QUOTE(R.A.F. @ Mar 17 2003 - 10:58 AM)
Maybe someone should tell Mausau, that v1.9x is better than v1.1. It seems, that he is not that related with MPC at all, as he posted it as "MPC/MPP/MP+"?
Well, it used to be MPP and MP+, so I don't see a problem with that.
grbmusic
Mar 18 2003, 00:43
GeSomeone
Mar 18 2003, 04:31
QUOTE(R.A.F. @ Mar 17 2003 - 07:58 PM)
Maybe someone should tell Mausau, that v1.9x is better than v1.1.
He must know where to get a newer source in that case.
If you look on
Frank's site you certainly get the impression that 1.1 is the latest. And it is the latest non-beta, isn't it?

edit: It can be
download from Case's siteDue to my lacking ablity to find a changelog

I'm not sure what was added /changed after 1.1 (was it PNS a.k.a. SV7.1 ?) Most important is that --xlevel encoded files are handled correctely and that should be the case. AFAIK the 1.9x series are only really needed to decode files made by the experimental encoder series (although all mpc's can be decoded with it).
--
Ge Someone
According to Case, if I recall correctly (please correct me if I'm wrong), the new decoders also fix some critical bugs in the 1.1 series.
dev0
QUOTE(R.A.F. @ Mar 17 2003 - 10:58 AM)
QUOTE(dev0 @ Mar 17 2003 - 05:59 PM)
Another question is why he used the outdated 1.1 decoder source and not the better/more stable 1.9x version?
Maybe someone should tell Mausau, that v1.9x is better than v1.1.
I've sent him an email about this (and ~10 other points) including a link to Case's site where he can download newest decoder source.
grbmusic
Mar 19 2003, 22:02
vio_man
Mar 20 2003, 07:08
New Mausau MPC plugin for Nero (20th March):
Uses mppenc 1.1 for encoding
Uses mppdec 1.95e for decoding
Can anyone check if it supports Replaygain?
WaldoMonster
Mar 20 2003, 07:46
The new version from March 20, 2003 doesn't work for me.
Freezes when trying to playback and doesn't burn a CD.
Does anyone have the same experience with the new plugin?
Same issue here. I sent a bug report to the author.
vio_man
Mar 20 2003, 08:53
He just removed the plugin from the page. He's gonna fix it.
I asked him to add support for ReplayGain. Let's all ask for ReplayGain support.
WaldoMonster
Mar 21 2003, 05:30
The new version gives the playtime only in minutes and seconds, the frames are always 00.
I haven't tested if it burn's live albums wrong.
For the rest it is working correct.
I don't know the email from the author.
So please will someone mail him or her the problem?
vio_man
Mar 21 2003, 06:32
This is the e-mail:
mausau@yahoo.com
WaldoMonster
Mar 21 2003, 10:56
Thanks for the email address.
I have send mausau the above bug.
vio_man
Mar 22 2003, 08:16
There's an updated plugin. This time uses mppenc 1.14. I think the plugin can use external encoder/decoder to do the job.
QUOTE(vio_man @ Mar 22 2003 - 06:16 AM)
There's an updated plugin. This time uses mppenc 1.14. I think the plugin can use external encoder/decoder to do the job.
In the screenshot it looks like you can change the settings of the encoder and decoder (and thereby get replaygain support

). I looked at the pluggins, but it wouldn't let me configure the muspack codec. How are you supposed to do that?
Oh yea, and that was damn quick with the revision.
QUOTE(torok @ Mar 23 2003 - 02:30 AM)
In the screenshot it looks like you can change the settings of the encoder and decoder (and thereby get replaygain support

). I looked at the pluggins, but it wouldn't let me configure the muspack codec. How are you supposed to do that?
Start some encoding job (cd extraction or file encoding), choose musepack as dest format, hit settings button.
Or put nxMyMPC.ini in same dir as plugin with smthng like:
QUOTE
[nxMyMPC]
Encoder=--xlevel
Decoder=--gain 1 --prev
salpro
Mar 26 2003, 02:38
you can use audiograbber that can be found at
http://www.audiograbber.com-us.net/it has direct to disk on the fly encoding for mp3 and ogg and a fine
line-in recording function even in the free version
salpro
Mar 26 2003, 02:42
when i drag mpc files to audio compilation in nero 5.5.15 , the decoding process is slow and the timing of the songs is note accurate
anyone with such experience ?
vinnie97
Mar 26 2003, 18:09
Yes, I too have noticed that the timing is off (the files play too fast when using Nero's playback function) and the burning process hangs before the lead-in is even written.
vio_man
Mar 26 2003, 18:49
Are you using the latest plugin dated from March 25th? Please use the latest compile, because I used it and it works fine for me.
vinnie97
Mar 26 2003, 22:42
Yea, I made sure:
MusePack plugin for Nero
Based on mppenc 1.14/mppdec 1.95e
Plugin written by mausau@yahoo.com
http://neroplugins.cd-rw.orgMar 25 2003 00:16:42
I used ReplayGain on the files, so maybe that's foiling Nero up.
R.A.F.
Mar 27 2003, 10:02
With me, the MPC-PlugIn for Nero doesnīt work at all. After writing the first track, it does not go on anymore. I also tried the APE-PlugIn to see, if itīs the fault of Nero, but this one works fine. Actually I donīt know, what the cause for this fault is. I tried several MPC-Albums to check. But with all the same problem: Freezing (or better standstill) after first music-piece.
Meanwhile I reinstalled Nero (with a complete system-restart) - but without any success. Always a hang-up after the first file. Has anyone got any idea what could be the cause for it?
Update I:
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I also tried to write it with the Image-Recorder (for caching only on HD). So that i can get sure, itīs not the fault of some cd-recorder-drivers. But the same negative result. Seems that the MPC-PlugIn is some kind of buggy.
P.S.: I used the latest compile of the Nero-MPC-PlugIn (Dated on 25-03/2003).
Update II:
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I found an older version of the Mausauīs PlugIn dated on the 17-03/2003 and tried with this (same files, same computer, everything the same). Result: Everything works fine.
So itīs nearly sure, that there is a bug in the latest compile. Or am we wrong anyway?
264556
Mar 27 2003, 11:37
QUOTE
With me, the MPC-PlugIn for Nero doesnīt work at all. After writing the first track, it does not go on anymore
I have the same problem, but it isn't a complete hang - I left it going overnight and in the morning it had finished writing the CD.
I've tried every build for the last week, but they've all been broken like this.
Nestor Fish
Mar 27 2003, 11:53
Check the sampling frequency for your MPCs under Nero : 48kHz... IT SAYS !!!
If you look at the resampler it has, it's set to 48kHz too... HUM
Then, if you set it to 44.1kHz, it takes a lot more time (he thinks he has to resample then.....) but it doesn't change anything else, excepted the bonus... hanging before the end of decoding ! and maybe playing time.
If you have the same pb, I'm sure you don't have an absolute hearing... because it shifts up the playing speed. Probably by about 48/44.1...
Let's know now whose fault is this.
vio_man
Mar 27 2003, 17:16
Please report all your problems to the MPC plugin developer so he can't fix it.
vio_man
Mar 28 2003, 05:46
A new MPC plugin was released today. It seems that the encoder adds an incorrect sample rate information to the MPC file. That's why Nero hangs.
vinnie97
Mar 28 2003, 09:13
ah, bugger....I guess SV8 fixes this issue? Too bad I've already encoded so many using SV7. :/
Gambit
Mar 28 2003, 09:44
Or you could always use
Burrrn 
to create Audio CDs from mpc. And it will write CD-Text according to the tags.
Nestor Fish
Mar 28 2003, 12:15
QUOTE
It seems that the encoder adds an incorrect sample rate information to the MPC file. That's why Nero hangs.
From Mausau's audio plugins page :
QUOTE
If you have existing SV70/SV71 files with sample rate other than 44100Hz(usually 48000Hz), you need to patch them in order to use them correctly in Nero
Here, it seems to be another problem (since we had the problem on 44.1kHz files considered as 48 kHz ones)... I'll report this to the developer now.
PS : Please excuse me from being firstly impulsive... I'm french, after all !
R.A.F.
Mar 28 2003, 13:17
QUOTE(vio_man @ Mar 28 2003 - 12:16 AM)
Please report all your problems to the MPC plugin developer so he can't fix it.
Done today.
R.A.F.
Mar 28 2003, 21:46
I checked out the new release (dated on 28-03/2003). Now everything works fine (and much faster than the old working 17-03 - compile).
vio_man
Mar 29 2003, 07:48
There's a new compile today (29th March).
R.A.F.
Mar 29 2003, 10:26
It seems, that the latest version (from 29-03) is also still buggy - at least in some cases. I tried to burn the album from "Aleksey - Mikrokosmos" and after the 1st percent of burning it, it came to this already mentioned standstill. With "Nena - Nena feat. Nena" the same. But later. After about 25 percent.
Some other albums could be burned without any errors.
Has anyone made the same experience?
Mail to Mausau follows soon (If Iīm absolutely sure).
MyAdviceIha
Mar 29 2003, 12:45
QUOTE(R.A.F. @ Mar 29 2003 - 08:26 AM)
It seems, that the latest version (from 29-03) is also still buggy - at least in some cases. I tried to burn the album from "Aleksey - Mikrokosmos" and after the 1st percent of burning it, it came to this already mentioned standstill. With "Nena - Nena feat. Nena" the same. But later. After about 25 percent.
Some other albums could be burned without any errors.
Has anyone made the same experience?
Mail to Mausau follows soon (If Iīm absolutely sure).
I had the same experience this morning. I was making a mixed CD and it got to 93% and stopped at an MPC file it was writing. I just had to eject it for it to end. The CD works up to that song, but the last song does not.

Oh well.
westgroveg
Mar 29 2003, 15:30
dated on 28-03/2003 - CDDA, 8% simulated, Nero crashed
264556
Mar 30 2003, 03:28
QUOTE
Or you could always use Burrrn to create Audio CDs from mpc. And it will write CD-Text according to the tags.
I think you should try Nero before you advise replacing it with Burrrn just yet:
Burrrn decodes to files and then burns these. This takes twice as long as Nero's decode on the fly method.
Burrrn also seems to be leaving tiny gaps between the tracks. Nero leaves 2 second gaps between tracks by default, but at least when you change it to 0 second gaps it really is gapless.
If Burrrn made truely gapless CDs then I'd probably use it.
Bbob1970
Mar 30 2003, 04:19
QUOTE(R.A.F. @ Mar 29 2003 - 04:26 PM)
It seems, that the latest version (from 29-03) is also still buggy - at least in some cases. I tried to burn the album from "Aleksey - Mikrokosmos" and after the 1st percent of burning it, it came to this already mentioned standstill. With "Nena - Nena feat. Nena" the same. But later. After about 25 percent.
Some other albums could be burned without any errors.
Has anyone made the same experience?
Mail to Mausau follows soon (If Iīm absolutely sure).
Have the same problem with 29-03 version but some funny things happen.
Using eac I decoded up to 50 cd's the past days. and used mpc 1.14 to encode them
burned dire straits album on nero but at nr 7 it stopped at 53%.
Then tried only to burn nr 7 and it would give an error on this file.
conclusion for some reason the plugin will not accept track 7 although it has been ripper the same way as the othher tracks.
Have simular problems with other tracks and some cd's work perfect.
I burn at 16x with my laptop and also had one cd that took 16 min to burn, it came out ok but nero slowed it down for some reason.
I doen seem that the plugin is still not prefect.
Gambit
Mar 30 2003, 04:24
QUOTE(264556 @ Mar 30 2003 - 10:28 AM)
QUOTE
Or you could always use Burrrn to create Audio CDs from mpc. And it will write CD-Text according to the tags.
I think you should try Nero before you advise replacing it with Burrrn just yet:
Burrrn decodes to files and then burns these. This takes twice as long as Nero's decode on the fly method.
Burrrn also seems to be leaving tiny gaps between the tracks. Nero leaves 2 second gaps between tracks by default, but at least when you change it to 0 second gaps it really is gapless.
If Burrrn made truely gapless CDs then I'd probably use it.
Well, maybe you are right. I probabably should not advise Burrrn, cause I wrote it, so my opinion is a bit biased.
But seriously, I'm not forcing anybody to replace Nero, I'm just offering a free alternative. With fully configurable decoding, tags reading etc.
The gaps in Burrrn are always set to zero, unless they are specified in a cue sheet . So if you have a problem with gaps please be more specific and I will take a look at it.
Gambit
Mar 30 2003, 04:28
QUOTE(264556 @ Mar 30 2003 - 10:28 AM)
Burrrn decodes to files and then burns these. This takes twice as long as Nero's decode on the fly method.
[Ironic mode on]
Maybe it takes longer, but at least it works
[/Ironic mode off]
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