Can anyone pick best, easy-to-use HTML editor like Frontpage?
Neo Neko
Mar 26 2003, 14:58
Learn (x)HTML. There's many good guides available, for example at
W3Schools. After that you can make kickass pages with any editor you can get. HTML isn't going to fade out in few months, learning HTML isn't wasting of your time.
Dibrom
Mar 26 2003, 20:44
QUOTE(manni @ Mar 26 2003 - 03:55 PM)
Learn (x)HTML. There's many good guides available, for example at
W3Schools. After that you can make kickass pages with any editor you can get. HTML isn't going to fade out in few months, learning HTML isn't wasting of your time.
I agree. There is no substitute for learning the actual standards. Once you learn some of the "rules" and basic syntax though, all you really need are a reference for CSS and xhtml.
Having said that, it
is nice once you know what you are doing to use an [x]html aware editor. I suggest htmlkit too if you're on a win32 platform.
Whatever you do, make sure you stay away from WYSIWYG editors... heh.
Neo Neko
Mar 27 2003, 03:40
Front page is far and away the worst HTML editor on the planet! I have been able to tweak frontpage generated pages so that they look and function the same but they are up to 80% smaller! It is outright shamefull.
As to XHTML. Learn it. Live it. Love it. But learn HTML first. Jumping into XHTML cold could be a daunting task. The transition from HTML to XHTML is actually quite easy. And learning CSS makes all the difference.
This site will not teach you to do CSS or HTML. But I have found it invaluable as a refference.
tangent
Mar 27 2003, 05:05
I use UltraEdit, works great for editing just about any text based stuffs.
Prefer Kate on KDE though
userXYZ
Mar 27 2003, 06:25
I have used UltraEdit for some time and can say too, that it's a great editor for text based documents.
If it must be a wysiwyg app for HTML-Editing, than I would recommend Dreamweaver MX but it's too expensive for me...
imho learning some html isnt a bad idea, on windoze iam using 'editpad lite' for the html creation (a simple text editor), some of my friends are quite happy with '1stpage' as well:
http://www.evrsoft.com/(which is supposed to be a 'real' html editor)
Zaraza
Mar 27 2003, 10:16
One word: JEdit:
http://www.jedit.orgThat's if you are up to learning HTML/CSS/etc.
If not, Mozilla comes with a reasonably decent WYSIWYG composer for web pages, it's not bad, but makes it hard to integrate CSS into your pages...and once you discover CSS there's no way you are going back to non-CSS based page creation.
Volcano
Mar 27 2003, 10:36
It's a pity
Ulli Meybohm's Phase5 HTML Editor IST only available in German - if you can live with the inconsistent menu/dialog interface, it's the ultimate tool for editing HTML/PHP sourcecode IMHO.
His other code editor, Proton, is available in English as well, but doesn't feature automatic closing of HTML tags which makes it a lot less comfortable for HTML editing (it also lacks pre-defined HTML commands, but I never use those anyway). Still highly recommended for any other programming language, though.
As for WYSIWYG editors... bah. You're better off typing up your pages in Word and making them available as PDF than you'd be using a WYSIWYG editor
Zaraza
Mar 27 2003, 11:14
JEdit has automatic autocompletion of tags for HTML/XML, as well as syntax highlighting for XHTML, HTML and PHP.
If I remember correctly, it can even autocomplete your HTML tags in the middle of PHP code (e.g. when you're using echo() to print out HTML tags into the page).
Neo Neko
Mar 27 2003, 15:32
HTMLkit can do pretty much all of that as well. Plus it is very exstensible. PHP, ColdFusion, ASP, etc. There are add ons for all of them.
Jan S.
Mar 28 2003, 14:25
I suggest using dreamweaver and learn the code.
The way I use it I use dreamweaver to do the hard work for me and write much of the code and then change it the way I like. Never let dreamweaver do what it wants but always pay attention to the code it writes.
QUOTE(tangent @ Mar 27 2003 - 01:05 PM)
I use UltraEdit, works great for editing just about any text based stuffs.
Seconded, UE is great.
http://www.ogg.prv.pl/TEST.htmThis file contains short text with polish-specific letters.
Ultraedit does not show these letters correct.
HTML-Kit, I started to like, changes these characters to something like "&oelig", "³" after any batch-process. How to stop him from doing that?
QUOTE(Cobra @ Mar 29 2003 - 09:08 PM)
HTML-Kit, I started to like, changes these characters to something like "&oelig", "³" after any batch-process. How to stop him from doing that?
Easy: You don't. Those are character references, they are needed to make the browser show the correct symbol with the usual character sets. When you open the HTML page, you'll see that the proper symbols are displayed. For further information, see
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/charset.html#h-5.3 and
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/sgml/entities.html.
"Analiza widma dźwięku nie może być podstawą dla oceny jakości dźwięku!!!"
I see this in both IE 6.0 and Phoenix 0.5. Above text has errors (there are "Ÿ", "ê" in code, "ź", "ę" in browser). Maybe there is something wrong in page properties?
EDIT: I have to choice: Use "illegal" characters or have "Ÿ", "ê" etc. which are NOT showed correctly by browser. Maybe it`s HTML-kits fault because HTML-kit converted polish characters to these... "Ÿ", "ê"
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