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louisgag
Hi,

is there a way to download 0.58? I can't play all my files with the new version and I won't take the time to remove ID3v2 tags from them.. since no new features I need, I would switch back...

any link?


thanks
chrisgeleven
Why can't you play all of your files with the new version? You sure you installed all the audio plugins that you need for your files? I believe the 0.6 installer doesn't automatically install all the audio plugins, you have to do a custom install to do that.

There is an option somewhere in the preferences that automatically kills all of the ID3v2 tags in each file as you play them, might be an option for you.
/\/ephaestous
you can also read ID3v2 with the new compile of the plugin.
kode54
What he's saying is that he is one of the many proud users of Cool Player, the only thing known to attach ID3v2 tags to .ogg files. Rather than bothering to find a way to remove the junk from his files and make them legal again, he intends to continue using an older version that allows illegal files like that.
/\/ephaestous
ohh I see..

Coolplayer's tagging for Vorbis sucks!

(I though It'd be fixed by now, since it was first reported about 2 months ago)
RIV@NVX
Well, it's on my HDD... I can mail it to you.
kode54
Yup...

Don't encourage his laziness! ph34r.gif
Curi0us_George
QUOTE(/\/ephaestous @ May 1 2003 - 03:52 PM)
ohh I see..

Coolplayer's tagging for Vorbis sucks!

(I though It'd be fixed by now, since it was first reported about 2 months ago)

From what I understand, it was added, knowing that it was a corruption of the standard, at the request of some users.
/\/ephaestous
yeah but even Monty asked for it to be removed.
William
http://coolplayer.sourceforge.net/

Seems problem with tagging OGG Vorbis fixed in build 213
Apach
I have all versions since 0.50 if anyone want i can sent it.
I'm sharing this files on Soul Seek too, my nick is: Apach
ssjkakaroto
all the other players should follow f2k example and add the option to convert the tags to the right format and automatically remove id3v2
louisgag
Acutally I DONT USE COOLPLAYER, I dont even know what it is..

Im a filesharer and I dont want to modify the files I download because after they become unaccessible by other users... So I use 0.58...

QUOTE
Don't encourage his laziness!

And its not a question of laziness by the way...

oh and ya: I found my version 0.58 back, so Im ok now smile.gif
louisgag
Hmm. I also tried the kill ID3v2 tags.. doesnt help... sad.gif
/\/ephaestous
QUOTE(louisgag @ May 3 2003 - 05:34 PM)
Acutally I DONT USE COOLPLAYER, I dont even know what it is..

Im a filesharer and I dont want to modify the files I download because after they become unaccessible by other users... So I use 0.58...

QUOTE
Don't encourage his laziness!

And its not a question of laziness by the way...

oh and ya: I found my version 0.58 back, so Im ok now smile.gif

I still don't get what you mean.. any file is playable in any player 0.61 or 0.58...
Guillaume
QUOTE(/\/ephaestous @ May 4 2003 - 12:52 AM)
I still don't get what you mean.. any file is playable in any player 0.61 or 0.58...

From changelog:

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0.6
- following Xiph's recommendations, Ogg files containing garbage at the beginning no longer play


That's what he's experiencing...
louisgag
QUOTE
From changelog:

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0.6
- following Xiph's recommendations, Ogg files containing garbage at the beginning no longer play


That's what he's experiencing...


Ya, most likely.

thanks for your help smile.gif

By the way, whats the use of not playing those file why not just give a warning or something like that?
/\/ephaestous
I still don't get it though, why would anyone have ID3v2 tags in an Ogg file if he/she didn't use CoolPlayer?
evereux
QUOTE(louisgag @ May 4 2003 - 02:45 AM)
QUOTE
From changelog:

QUOTE 
0.6
- following Xiph's recommendations, Ogg files containing garbage at the beginning no longer play


That's what he's experiencing...


Ya, most likely.

thanks for your help smile.gif

By the way, whats the use of not playing those file why not just give a warning or something like that?

True, as there'll be more threads like this in the future ...
louisgag
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I still don't get it though, why would anyone have ID3v2 tags in an Ogg file if he/she didn't use CoolPlayer?


I guess the files I downloaded were encoded by someone who used coolplayer sad.gif
kode54
Which is just one of the reasons I hate P2P networks that are based on file hashes. When I find files that are broken, I just move them out of my share and fix them. Maybe in the future, I should bother to waste my disk space with a redundant copy just so I can rate it as broken.
Curi0us_George
Maybe I'm just stupid, but couldn't you simply fix it, generate a new hash, and re-share it, passing it off as your own?
/\/ephaestous
yes but it'd kill multiuser downloads
Curi0us_George
So? The alternative is to remove it from your share, fix it, and not re-share. So why not just share a fixed version?
kode54
Really hard to accomplish anything if the original file is very popular or linked by indexing services.
leland
I don't see that option to kill id3v2 tags. That would actually be a great plugin - an automatic tag compliance plugin...If there's id3v2, just copy it to v1 and/or ape tags on playback.
kode54
Up next, automatically correct user error.
louisgag
Ya,

this is all interesting, but why not simply accept files that contain ID3v2 and simply ignore the tag isntead of erasing it or not reading the file?
/\/ephaestous
QUOTE(louisgag @ May 5 2003 - 08:15 PM)
Ya,

this is all interesting, but why not simply accept files that contain ID3v2 and simply ignore the tag isntead of erasing it or not reading the file?

Because it'd encourage lazy programers of Open source players to do things their way instead of following the spec
louisgag
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Because it'd encourage lazy programers of Open source players to do things their way instead of following the spec


true, but maybe just giving a warning before playing the file? Because this maybe discourages lazy programers, but it also defavourizes normal users (like me)
Curi0us_George
Personally, I'd like to see an option to have foobar automatically strip the trash permanently.

I'm definitely not in favor of supporting the playing of corrupted files. That's just ridiculous and unnecessary. Don't bitch at Peter. Bitch at the jackass who put ID3 tags in your ogg files.
louisgag
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Don't bitch at Peter. Bitch at the jackass who put ID3 tags in your ogg files.


yes, you're right... finding that jackass isn't that easy but I'll try smile.gif
teetee
QUOTE(louisgag @ May 6 2003 - 02:08 AM)
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Because it'd encourage lazy programers of Open source players to do things their way instead of following the spec


true, but maybe just giving a warning before playing the file? Because this maybe discourages lazy programers, but it also defavourizes normal users (like me)

if it refuses to play then it is more likely to encourage said 'normal users' to moan at said lazy programmers until they fix their rubbish programming...

if it just warned then you wouldn't do anything about it..
Curi0us_George
The newest version will play them with a warning.
louisgag
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The newest version will play them with a warning.


Yes,

and the warning is quite annoying, so thats good. smile.gif

Everybody is happy now (I think)
RIV@NVX
QUOTE(louisgag @ May 8 2003 - 10:19 PM)
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The newest version will play them with a warning.


Yes,

and the warning is quite annoying, so thats good. smile.gif

Everybody is happy now (I think)

Just wondering - what does it say?
Curi0us_George
I hope you appreciate this. I had to mess up a perfectly valid file to get you this information. (Actually, it's a copy of a song I don't care about anyway.) biggrin.gif

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ERROR (foo_input_std) : Ogg stream is corrupted : E:\uploads\02-Just Like This.ogg
INFO (CORE) : startup time: 361 ms
INFO (CORE) : opening file for playback : file://E:\uploads\02-Just Like This.ogg
ERROR (foo_flac) : Ogg stream is corrupted : E:\uploads\02-Just Like This.ogg
ERROR (foo_input_std) : Ogg stream is corrupted : E:\uploads\02-Just Like This.ogg
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