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Real Midi Support

Is there anyone working on a midi input plugin?

I have recently switched to Foobar (amazing) from Winamp and besides an odd bug the only other beef I have with Foobar is actually over different input formats.

Foobar doesnt come with a midi input, and the only other plugin I can find was foo_midi. Thing is, foo_midi isnt very good. You cant choose your output device, resulting in it sounding terrible, and forget about seeking, it takes a long time and locks up the whole computer.

Not that I listen to Midi's terribly often - but still, I would like to use Foobar as my audio player fulltime.

Real Midi Support

Reply #1 –
A Foobar2000 MIDI input will always be limited to software synthesis. Foo_midi is limited to DXi plug-ins, and an internal FM synthesizer.

Perhaps somebody would be interested in developing a free General MIDI DXi, or SoundFont / Gravis UltraSound patch based synthesizer. I don't know how easy it would be to make a library or DXi from TiMidity, but that would be one possibility.

Real Midi Support

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... or SoundFont / Gravis UltraSound patch based synthesizer. I don't know how easy it would be to make a library or DXi from TiMidity, but that would be one possibility.[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=253972"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

Would'nt OCP (OpenCubicPlayer) sources allow to get such thing into foo_midi? OCP's midi support is based on Gravis Ultra Sound Patches (.PAT files). Alternately it provides support for newer Gravis soundfont format (.FFF files). What about Peter's in_midi sources. Are they copyrighted to Nullsoft/AOL? I fear i'm guessing right here...

Real Midi Support

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Would'nt OCP (OpenCubicPlayer) sources allow to get such thing into foo_midi?[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=254057"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

Well, I was looking for something more object-oriented, ie. at least multi-instance safe and clean, and which I could easily manipulate externally for the track exclusion and looping.

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OCP's midi support is based on Gravis Ultra Sound Patches (.PAT files). Alternately it provides support for newer Gravis soundfont format (.FFF files).[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=254057"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

I am aware of that, thanks.


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What about Peter's in_midi sources. Are they copyrighted to Nullsoft/AOL? I fear i'm guessing right here...
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I fail to see how that would be of any use to me. The only viable MIDI option in that player is the DirectShow routing, and from what I gather, it can only render in realtime, so it would be next to useless for ReplayGain scanning or conversion.

Real Midi Support

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Thing is, foo_midi isnt very good. You cant choose your output device, resulting in it sounding terrible, and forget about seeking, it takes a long time and locks up the whole computer.[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=253954"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

Just fyi, foo_midi is / sounds rather excellent if you use the Edirol Hyper Canvas DXi for rendering.
A riddle is a short sword attached to the next 2000 years.

Real Midi Support

Reply #5 –
Too bad you either need to shell out $90 for that. Technically, that is.

Real Midi Support

Reply #6 –
Told you I was new to foobar

Thanks for your responses. I wasn't aware that foo_midi was limited because of foobar itself. Now I know. And I'll look into getting my hands on Hyper Canvas.

Guess that leaves my only problem with it the cpu stealing / take forever seeking.

Hey kode, did you see my post here ?

Real Midi Support

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Guess that leaves my only problem with it the cpu stealing / take forever seeking.
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Nope, using Hyper Canvas should fix that as well. The built-in FM synthesis simply isn't very fast.
A riddle is a short sword attached to the next 2000 years.
 

Real Midi Support

Reply #8 –
Alright, I have installed Hyper Canvas. Your right, its loads better now  The seeking is instant, and MOST midids sound alright, but there are a few that are off from what they should sound like, but that is probably a Hyper Canvas problem.

At least I have a decent solution now, but I would still prefer to be able to oupt midiout to my SB Audigy Synth, or through direct music.