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Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #25 –
The installer crashed before even showing some dialog when run under a limited user account on Windows XP (Service Pack 2). I can't be bothered to try it under an administrator account for now.

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #26 –
Also have the "General Error Out of memory" error here.

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #27 –
Original File - The Celtic Soul Brothers.wav - 33,367 KB
Encoded File - The Celtic Soul Brothers.lan - 6,862 KB
Decode File - The Celtic Soul Brothers.wav - 33,367 KB

But again the decoded file is different.
Comparing:
"C:\Tom\Dexys Midnight Runners\Too-Rye-Ay\01 - The Celtic Soul Brothers.wav"
"C:\Tom\Dexys Midnight Runners\Too-Rye-Ay\New Folder\01 - The Celtic Soul Brothers.wav"
differences found: 16834726 sample(s), starting at 1.0200680 second(s), peak: 0.0312500 at 6.7400907 second(s), 2ch

Until its lossless then there is no point in testing it IMO.


Allthough there may be a problem in my testing methodology but I doubt it.

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #28 –
Given the nature of the claims and what attempts at verification turned up, I am moving it to offtopic.

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #29 –
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The installer crashed before even showing some dialog when run under a limited user account on Windows XP (Service Pack 2). I can't be bothered to try it under an administrator account for now.
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=379059"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


I tried with an Administrator account and it crashed right away here, too. I am using Windows XP Home Service Pack 2 (German).

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #30 –
Rule no 1 of any small SW business:

Be honest. Never claim more than you can deliver. And do not let your mkg dept underestimate the intelligence of your target audience.

Rule no 2 of any small SW business:

Deliver a working beta. The one that not just work, but meets your claims.

Failing these you loose those enthusiastic who bother with your product. Once bitten twice shy, you know. You loose the very people who could spread your product.

You seemed to failed miserably on both accounts. Fortunately you did not fail me, but I would never consider you in the 1st place anyway. I only work with open standards, and wait for others to test 1st. However this just emphasizes the fact that you failed on the very people who took the trouble and the risk to download a dubious product from a dubious company. Big mistake.

Triza

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #32 –
I cant find any information on your website about system requirements.
Is it platform independant, or what?

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #33 –
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I cant find any information on your website about system requirements.
Is it platform independant, or what?
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=379186"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Hi,

Thank you all for your feedbacks, as claimed here the beta is still premature but can generates some nice results as stated in my first claims here in the discussion. The bugs which are reported will be fixed in the upcoming days (2-3 day max) and we will deliver a new version with the bit-to-bit reconstruction problem which occurred on your tests. In any case the decompressed files are normally undistinguishable from the original files in all ABX tests (Even in the current version).

As for the system requirements:
Sorry for the incontinent the only supported platform for now is Windows 2000 and higher, the installation problems some of you encountered will be further investigated and fix ASAP.

Thanks for you Time & Feedbacks.

- Nir

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #34 –
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In any case the decompressed files are normally undistinguishable from the original files in all ABX tests (Even in the current version).
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=379215"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Perhaps, but that's not good enough if you are advertising it as lossless.

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #35 –
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In any case the decompressed files are normally undistinguishable from the original files in all ABX tests (Even in the current version).
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=379215"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Perhaps, but that's not good enough if you are advertising it as lossless.
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=379228"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


You are correct, we will fix the problem ASAP.

Thanks

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #36 –
The one thing that's keeping my hope up about this app is that the gentleman, Nir Halowani, is admitting the problems and replying in a decent manor...  That's not what usually happens if it were a hoax.

Best of luck to you Nir Halowani.

[edit]
but this is just bullshit:

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Below are the results of comparison between Infima new Video format and the competitors (no quality loss).
Original File: AVI Microsoft Video (200 MB).

Format  Size of File
Infima VLAN Format – lossless  31 MB
MPG Microsoft MPEG-4 – lossy  56 MB
DivX – lossy  62 MB
WMV (WindowsMediaVideo) - lossy  66 MB
MOV (Sorenson Video) – lossy  119 MB


Lossless video smaller than lossy?  Nah.  Not unless Nir Halowani is about to become the richest and most respected man in the world.

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #37 –
I tried to post a reply yesterday but failed, because the thread was locked right before I hit "Add Reply".

Anway, there was a company in Korea not long ago that advertised "lossless recompression of audio/video." When people pointed out that it was impossible, they explained that it was meant to be "perceptually lossless," whatever that may mean. They didn't update their webpages, however.

Déjà vu.

BTW, I went to their website later on, and found an inquiry from On2 Techonology's CEO on their front page. He was asking whether the video part was plagiarized from VP6, IIRC. There was no reply, even though the question was quite old at that time.

I haven't heard about that company ever since.

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #38 –
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I cant find any information on your website about system requirements.
Is it platform independant, or what?
As for the system requirements:
Sorry for the incontinent the only supported platform for now is Windows 2000 and higher

Ok, then its no use for non-Windows user like me...

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In any case the decompressed files are normally undistinguishable from the original files in all ABX tests (Even in the current version).

No ABX test is needed to check if its lossless. Comparing the PCM stream, or even an MD5 checksum should verify this!

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #39 –
It crashes for me too, normally i try every compressor out, this looks amazing, right.

But:

1st: You need a activate an account to download, okay.
2nd: They don't compared with 7-zip and uharc 0.6 (mm curious,) only compressor with maximum 4mb's of dicctionary?
3rd:The installer crashes (i'm using xp sp2 , more curios looks created with spoon installer (a compressor using a lzma for install?)

@Nir Halowani
To are in alot of forums and guestbooks informing about the compressor, right? I miss this info in 7-zip forums .

Sorry if the post it's in incorrect location. but i think a lot of people are expecting the "compressor"

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #40 –
Quote from: Funkstar De Luxe on
[edit]
but this is just bullshit:

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Below are the results of comparison between Infima new Video format and the competitors (no quality loss).
Original File: AVI Microsoft Video (200 MB).

[snip]


Lossless video smaller than lossy?  Nah.  Not unless Nir Halowani is about to become the richest and most respected man in the world.

Not to mention you have no idea what kind of video clip that is. "AVI Microsoft Video (200 MB)" doesn't exactly tell much about the content. "Natural" video? Animation? Screen capture?

So, where is that avi? Non-reproducible benchmarks are pretty useless...
A riddle is a short sword attached to the next 2000 years.

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #41 –
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AVI Microsoft Video (200 MB).

Maybe in mind cinepack or rle XDDD

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #42 –
Company starting like this and using the word "lossless" in a perceptual sense, which I never heard before is one of those slimey small-time "chances" uhu ... sorry companies.

What kind of QA this company has releasing such rubbish beta. Do you guys have any?

Let's see if you guys are gonna be around in two years time.

Triza
 

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #44 –
The *.pack files in the Data folder are infact .exe's and .dll's packed with UHARC with password:
aud2lan.exe:  Monkey's Audio Console Front End (v 4.01)
audlan.exe:  Lossless Audio Compressor  0.4b
biglan.exe:  SBC Archiver 0.970
bmplan.exe:  BMF 1.1
classlan.exe:  J.Class Optimizer for Windows. Version 1.00
convlan.exe:  ImageMagick 6.2.4 09/10/05 Q16
exelan.exe:  UPX 1.93 beta
fastlan.exe:  gzip 1.2.4 Win32 (02 Dec 97)
jpeglan.dll:  library and tools for JPEG images
lan2.exe:  DURILCA v.0.4b
lan2plus.exe:  Monstrous PPMII compressor based on PPMd var.J, Feb 16 2006
lannor.exe:  DURILCA v.0.4b
lannor1.exe:  Fast PPMII compressor for textual data, variant J, Feb 16 2006
lanpack.exe:  7-Zip 4.31
mplan.exe:  LAME version 4.0 (alpha 14, Sep 25 2005 10:04:14)
palan.exe:  PAQ 8g
pgmlan.exe:  photo PGM(P5) <=> BMF file convertor, v.2.0
swflan.exe:  flasm 1.52 build Sep 30 2004
wtlan.exe:  Infima Tranformer 1.0 - Word Replacing Transformation, rebuild of WRT
pdflan.exe:  pdftk 1.12
pnglan.exe:  InfimaPNG 1.0: Infima Advanced PNG optimizer, rebuild of Optipng
imglan.exe:  fCoder Batch Converters
vidlan.exe:  FFmpeg version CVS
Nandub.exe

Password: Infima_xxx_Compression_Plugin
Change xxx with name of .pack file.

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #45 –
Hahaha, him forgott bzip2!! xD
What a great fake/joke!! :

7-zip 4.31 it's "old"
nandub "the same"
lame 4.0 have errors encoding at 128

@JohanDeBock
Dont' worry the lame/author can clarify this, it's clearly, easy to understand it's a joke of 1st of april.

I talked with an engineer of Video and him can't stop to laugh.

So..bye bye..the name?  ahh! Infishit no?
7-zip/xvid/ogg rulez!

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #46 –
To me it looks more like a scam/fraud that an april's fool.

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #47 –
Okay, violation of gpl licence?
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audlan.exe: Lossless Audio Compressor 0.4b
exelan.exe: UPX 1.93 beta
fastlan.exe: gzip 1.2.4 Win32 (02 Dec 97)
jpeglan.dll: library and tools for JPEG images
lan2.exe: DURILCA v.0.4b
lan2plus.exe: Monstrous PPMII compressor based on PPMd var.J, Feb 16 2006
lannor.exe: DURILCA v.0.4b
lannor1.exe: Fast PPMII compressor for textual data, variant J, Feb 16 2006
lanpack.exe: 7-Zip 4.31
mplan.exe: LAME version 4.0 (alpha 14, Sep 25 2005 10:04:14)
palan.exe: PAQ 8g
pdflan.exe: pdftk 1.12
pnglan.exe: InfimaPNG 1.0: Infima Advanced PNG optimizer, rebuild of Optipng
vidlan.exe: FFmpeg version CVS
Nandub.exe

All this programs are GPL. Maybe i forgett something.

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #48 –
Quote from: JohanDeBock on
The *.pack files in the Data folder are infact .exe's and .dll's packed with UHARC with password:

{--deleted--}

Password: Infima_xxx_Compression_Plugin
Change xxx with name of .pack file.
I'm interested in how you can find all this out. And the password too. You reverse-engineer?

Infima - Massive Copyright violation

Reply #49 –
Quote from: pepoluan on
Quote from: JohanDeBock on

The *.pack files in the Data folder are infact .exe's and .dll's packed with UHARC with password:

{--deleted--}

Password: Infima_xxx_Compression_Plugin
Change xxx with name of .pack file.
I'm interested in how you can find all this out. And the password too. You reverse-engineer?


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