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Reply #2025 –
Sorry to repost, but I'm not sure anyone saw my edit:

If we do not use id3 tags for are album art, can artwork be read at all from the ipod when playing via foobar? For example, if all of my artwork is stored in folder.jpgs when I send it to the ipod, is it possible for that artwork to somehow be used when playing songs from the ipod library?

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Reply #2026 –
It is a standard Windows XP Home SP0 patched to SP1, SP2, SP3 without nLite applied. The other computer on which it works was nLited :-). Could it have to do something with the language of the OS? Does your plugin support German Windows?

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Reply #2027 –
Quote from: Fractal_Mortality on
If we do not use id3 tags for are album art, can artwork be read at all from the ipod when playing via foobar? For example, if all of my artwork is stored in folder.jpgs when I send it to the ipod, is it possible for that artwork to somehow be used when playing songs from the ipod library?
You can't do such a thing in the current version, no.

Quote from: Berki on
It is a standard Windows XP Home SP0 patched to SP1, SP2, SP3 without nLite applied. The other computer on which it works was nLited :-). Could it have to do something with the language of the OS? Does your plugin support German Windows?
If you go into the Regional and Language Options control panel applet, the installed code pages are listed somewhere there on Windows XP. 20127 is the ASCII one.

If non-English versions of Windows XP didn't come with the ASCII code page by default then no, but I would have thought more people would have complained by now... I think it is more likely something removed it, but anyway you can just re-add it.

[edit] typos
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Reply #2028 –
Hi, your plugin is excellent!

I save all of my lyrics in the "LYRICS" tag in my mp3's. For them to show on my iPod, I have to put the Lyrics into the 'UNSYNCED LYRICS' tag, as this is the tag that the ipod reads lyrics from.

I was just wondering if you could place an option in the plugin preferences so that when I click to transfer a song from my collection to my iPod, that if there is anything saved in the "LYRICS" tag, it is copied into the "UNSYNCED LYRICS" tag and then transferred onto my iPod, so that the lyrics display correctly on my ipod, while my original mp3 file remains untouched with the lyrics still in the "LYRICS" tag.

At the moment, I have transferred all of my lyrics into the "UNSYNCED LYRICS" tag, but would much prefer to keep my lyrics in the "LYRICS" tag as a lot of my other mp3 playing software only read lyrics from the "LYRICS" tag.

Hopefully this is an easy option to add and it would be extremely useful (and for other people as if you search google, there are many people that keep lyrics in the "Lyrics" tag and were confused as to why they were not showing on their iPod)

Many thanks for an excellent plugin

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Reply #2029 –
musicmusic, you are the best! The issue was the unticked (but installed) codepage. I would have never found what the problem was...

Thank you sooo much! You saved me a reinstall of my PC :-).

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Reply #2030 –
I feel like we've already been here before.....but I gotta ask.

When ©Apple drops the 3.0 bomb next week, is there any chance that this component will work on iPhone at all?  I can see from your site that 3.x doesn't work, but is there substantial changes again in how they protect the db?

Of course, if you need some help in testing the thing, I'll do what I can, but was just hoping for some good news in that making things work will be relatively simple....

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Reply #2031 –
Quote from: sitalchauhan on
Hi, your plugin is excellent!

I save all of my lyrics in the "LYRICS" tag in my mp3's. For them to show on my iPod, I have to put the Lyrics into the 'UNSYNCED LYRICS' tag, as this is the tag that the ipod reads lyrics from.

I was just wondering if you could place an option in the plugin preferences so that when I click to transfer a song from my collection to my iPod, that if there is anything saved in the "LYRICS" tag, it is copied into the "UNSYNCED LYRICS" tag and then transferred onto my iPod, so that the lyrics display correctly on my ipod, while my original mp3 file remains untouched with the lyrics still in the "LYRICS" tag.

At the moment, I have transferred all of my lyrics into the "UNSYNCED LYRICS" tag, but would much prefer to keep my lyrics in the "LYRICS" tag as a lot of my other mp3 playing software only read lyrics from the "LYRICS" tag.

Hopefully this is an easy option to add and it would be extremely useful (and for other people as if you search google, there are many people that keep lyrics in the "Lyrics" tag and were confused as to why they were not showing on their iPod)

Many thanks for an excellent plugin
Well most software would read it from USLT frame, see foobar2000 mappings, ID3v2.4 frame specifications, so I don't know about your comment about that, maybe you mean some foobar2000 components. Bar conversions, files are always copied unmodified by design. Besides I don't think it's the component's job to "fix" tags for you, if foobar2000 was to adopt a consistent mapping across formats, which I would say should be LYRICS, then I at least would quite happily change the component's detections accordingly depending on the foobar2000 version installed.

Quote from: Berki on
musicmusic, you are the best! The issue was the unticked (but installed) codepage. I would have never found what the problem was...

Thank you sooo much! You saved me a reinstall of my PC :-).
Welcome, but I can add a more descriptive error message now at least.
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Reply #2032 –
Quote from: RainDawg on
When ©Apple drops the 3.0 bomb next week, is there any chance that this component will work on iPhone at all?  I can see from your site that 3.x doesn't work, but is there substantial changes again in how they protect the db?
Hi,
It was covered some posts above, but as far as I could see, nothing new in the way of protection mechanisms. The problem was that they are now also using some new SQLite databases. As I understood though, a simple workaround was simply opening and closing iTunes after using the component, however AFAIK that was tested on pre-release iTunes 8.2/3.x firmware, no confirmation for final version.
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Reply #2033 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
Well most software would read it from USLT frame, see foobar2000 mappings, ID3v2.4 frame specifications, so I don't know about your comment about that, maybe you mean some foobar2000 components. Bar conversions, files are always copied unmodified by design. Besides I don't think it's the component's job to "fix" tags for you, if foobar2000 was to adopt a consistent mapping across formats, which I would say should be LYRICS, then I at least would quite happily change the component's detections accordingly depending on the foobar2000 version installed.


Thanks for the reply  I was wondering if what I wanted could easily be done through the Preferences of iPod Manager under the Database tab, under Metadata. Unfortunately it is set so that I cannot add my own custom entrys, but if the following entry was added would it not work very easily?

Field: 'Unsynced Lyrics'
Mapping: $if2($meta(lyrics),)

Which would basically copy anything from the 'LYRICS' tag into the 'UNSYNCED LYRICS' tag when transferring to iPod.

I understand not everybody would want this by default, so by default if there is the 'Unsynced Lyrics' Field under the Metadata preferences, but the Mapping is left blank by default, then I/anybody can add the mapping they want to transfer their lyrics to their iPod if they do not have them saved in the 'Unsynced Lyrics' tag in their files.

Many thanks and keep up the excellent work,
Sital

EDIT: If this requires a lot of work to add the "Unsynced Lryics" field to the Metadata list in the preferences, dont worry about it, but it would be extremely useful for myself and im sure most others that save their lyrics in the id3 tags not under the "Unsynced Lyrics" tag

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Reply #2034 –
Great work with the foo_dop plugin musicmusic  Have been using it on version 2.2.1 for the past month or so with great success. Here's my report on the firmware 3.0 upgrade:

Just tried foo_dop with my 1G iPod touch running the official 3.0 firmware (and itunes 8.2) without success. It seems the files are copied to the iPod without a problem, but don't show up on the iPod (though itunes indicates that the Other space has been used, so they are definitely on there). Opening and closing itunes after using foo_dop didn't seem to help. Performing a Load Library with foo_dop is able to view all of the mp3s though.

Already looking forward to the next release!

Edit: foo_dop is also unable to see songs added to the iPod through itunes

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Reply #2035 –
Quote from: sitalchauhan on
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The iPod reads the lyrics directly from the file: I can't remap it like that.

Quote from: fraganator on
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OK, probably iTunes is just using the newer DB exclusively now. I'm looking into it but it will take some time

I wouldn't mind another backup of the iTunes_Control\iTunes folder (from anybody) from the final 3.0 firmware/iTunes 8.2, just in case they have changed anything since the pre-release version.
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Reply #2036 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
I wouldn't mind another backup of the iTunes_Control\iTunes folder (from anybody) from the final 3.0 firmware/iTunes 8.2, just in case they have changed anything since the pre-release version.


I've just emailed through a copy of the folder from my iPod, grabbed using iPhoneExplorer. It seems iTunesDB is missing completely now, though I'm not familiar any of the 3.0 betas so it may have been gone already.

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Reply #2037 –
Going back to my Windows 7 issue, I have put XP back on my laptop, and now I can sync my 2nd gen iPod Touch, will you be looking into 7 support once it goes RTM?

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Reply #2038 –
I've just upgraded my ipod Touch 2G from 2.2.1 to 3.0. No problems with iTunes 8.2 but foobar cannoy see the iPod. It was working 100% yesterday.

Where I can look for the problem?

Thanks

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Reply #2039 –
Quote from: victorkr on
I've just upgraded my ipod Touch 2G from 2.2.1 to 3.0. No problems with iTunes 8.2 but foobar cannoy see the iPod. It was working 100% yesterday.

Where I can look for the problem?

Thanks


here
software 3.0 is not supported but hopefully will in the near future. for me it's the reason to buy the iphone 3gs

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Reply #2040 –
Quote from: fraganator on
I've just emailed through a copy of the folder from my iPod, grabbed using iPhoneExplorer. It seems iTunesDB is missing completely now, though I'm not familiar any of the 3.0 betas so it may have been gone already.
Thanks, got it

Quote from: vassie on
Going back to my Windows 7 issue, I have put XP back on my laptop, and now I can sync my 2nd gen iPod Touch, will you be looking into 7 support once it goes RTM?
Well, as we know the issue is that the pairing fails, but you can use iTunes to do the pairing if you wish.

I don't know why it fails - Process Monitor may through up something if it is to do with file access, the keys are stored somewhere in the %AppData% folder I think.

As I don't have an iPhone or iPod touch, it's difficult for me to investigate.
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Reply #2041 –
I like to see your already working on firmware 3.0! You are awesome!

best of luck!

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Reply #2042 –
Don't get too excited. There's a file - Locations.itdb.cbk - and I'm suspicious of it. I think there is probably some new protection mechanism here after all
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Reply #2043 –
I've got a 2G Touch and just installed the 3.0 upgrade yesterday...

As far as I can tell foodop is still working OK - I've both added and deleted files from my Touch.

However, I deleted an album from my Touch using Foobar after upgrading, but my Touch later insisted it was still there, even though it couldn't play the (missing) files.
And I've noticed today that I can no longer scrobble files from my Touch - the audioscrobbler component always says "Your cache contains 0 tracks"

So, not perfect, but could be a lot worse. :-)

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Reply #2044 –
Quote from: StuPC on
I've got a 2G Touch and just installed the 3.0 upgrade yesterday...

As far as I can tell foodop is still working OK - I've both added and deleted files from my Touch.

However, I deleted an album from my Touch using Foobar after upgrading, but my Touch later insisted it was still there, even though it couldn't play the (missing) files.
And I've noticed today that I can no longer scrobble files from my Touch - the audioscrobbler component always says "Your cache contains 0 tracks"

So, not perfect, but could be a lot worse. :-)


Actually, scratch that last post - foodop and my Touch are not playing nicely together at all - Touch refuses to acknowledges any new mp3s added using foobar.  Even though foobar says they're definitely on there (or not on there) the Touch itself still shows removed tracks and does NOT show added tracks. :-(
 

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Reply #2045 –
Anyway, due to the new protection mechanisms they have added, don't expect proper support for the 3.0 firmware anytime soon. (The only thing that I could add is read-only support).
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Reply #2047 –
Why does Apple DO that kind of thing. I just don't understand what they have to gain!

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Reply #2048 –
I'm having a slight problem with the built-in converter.  It works for everything except my 24-bit FLAC files.  They convert fine using foobar's converter with the same encoder settings, so I'm not sure what the issue is.  No errors being spit out anywhere I can see either.