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RHCP - Copy Protection

hmmm...
my room-mate just borrowed the latest 'Red Hot Chili Peppers' album from a friend and wants to burn it on my PC. Thing is, my CD-ROM/burner won't even detect there is a CD in the drive. Plays fine on CD players, wont work on my PC. I'm guessing it's a new form of copy-protection they're releasing? Not sure. Anyone have any ideas? heard anything? have a way around it?

So far I've had to record out from the headphone jack of my stereo into the line-in of my sound card. Dodgy!
I'm thinking the quality might be a bit better out of my home DVD player since it's supposed to be able to output up to 24b/192kb or something like that. But still, any suggestions on how to get my CD-ROM to read the CD?

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Reply #1 –
Are far as I know, RHCP - By The Way has no copy protection.  I had no problem copying it with Nero.  Might wanna check your cd/dvd drive...
"You can fight without ever winning, but never win without a fight."  Neil Peart  'Resist'

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Reply #2 –
I have no idea how this trick might affect copy-protected discs, but once when I ran into a CD-R my system simply would not acknowledge (turned out later the disc had never been finalized!) I managed a clean extraction by the following process:

  1) I loaded another disc that I knew was slightly longer than the one I was trying to extract into Exact Audio copy, and waited for the disc to be recognized.

  2) Under "Action" I told EAC to "Create CUE sheet."

  3) Under "EAC" > "EAC Options..." > "Extraction" I unchecked the option for "Lock drive tray during extraction."

  4) I manually ejected the good disc (by pressing the button on my drive; if you use the "Eject" button in EAC, the program decides there is no longer a disc present) and placed the troublesome disc in the drive.

  5) I then told EAC to "Copy image and create CUE sheet." Remember, I had already created a CUE sheet, and as far as EAC knew there had been a disc in the drive the entire session. EAC simply used the cue sheet from the good disc (since EAC seems to access CUE sheets from RAM, if present) and began extracting the audio data as if it were from the good disc.

  6) When the WAV image of the disc was finished, I opened it in a Wave editor to find the appropriate track boundaries (judging from the fade-ins/fade-outs/transitions) and then re-opened it in CDWave to manually insert the index points and trim the extraneous silence from the end of the image. You might be able to avoid the extraneous silence by checking "Delete leading and trailing silent blocks" under "EAC" > "EAC Options..." > "Extraction," but since for my own use I prefer an exact image of my master discs I had never bothered with that option, and consequently didn't think of it.

  Best bet might be to just buy a copy of the album, though.

    - M.

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Reply #3 –
A while ago I wrote a little something about defeating Cactus Data Shield: http://cd-rw.org/articles/archive/cactusdatashield.cfm

Feurio! is able to resort the illegal TOC, and my Samsung drive was able to read the TOC perfectly to begin with. But there quite a bit of difficulties with the artificial errors generated on the disc.  A little after I wrote that, I discovered that PlexTools has a "1st session only" -feature, that helps you with illegal TOCs.

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Reply #4 –
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Are far as I know, RHCP - By The Way has no copy protection.  I had no problem copying it with Nero.  Might wanna check your cd/dvd drive...

Yep... I can confirm this,  this is one of my test albums, and it ripped to hdd quite nicely

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Reply #5 –
Maybe it's Key2Audio (or whatever that protection is called). It showed up as a data track (last track) on a couple of discs I tried, which btw still ripped fine using Exact Audio Copy (and not selecting the data track). I guess the problem comes if you try to do a disc-to-disc copy or something...

Look for ClonyXXL on the 'net, it's supposed to be very good at detecting whether a disc is copy-protected or not.

EDIT: My lousy English

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Reply #6 –
Hmmm... not copy protected hey?
Well I've updated the firmware for my drive to see if that helps, but my roomie's returned the CD now anyway. Might see if I can get him to steal it back just so I can play with it and see if it works.
M - your idea sounds sneaky ... I like that

Thanks for replies.

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Reply #7 –
you might want to check to see if the cd has any cd extra or enhanced cd material on it.  i know that i am not able to detect these cds in either of my cd-rw or dvd drives when playing them with winamp, but they do appear in their entirety when using eac.

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Reply #8 –
I own this CD, and there is no copy protection on it (or any enhanced content in fact). It seems that it is a problem with your CD drive.

Unless a copy-protected version got released in the states or something (I bought mine in Belgium).

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Reply #9 –
I'm in the US.  Bought the CD at Wally World (Walmart for those of you non-US'ers  ).  Ripped just fine and dandy with EAC and my Liteon writer.

So umm...yeah...

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Reply #11 –
Watch out, there are protected and unprotected versions from different albums which look identical from the outside, depending on the countries where they are released. So you can't simply say: "Mine rips fine, so yours must too"!