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Best "type" of CD for buring audio

Hi I was wanting recommendations on what "type" or brand of CD I should use to burn my music stored on HD. Everything is Apple Lossless and I have an audiophile setup. I heard somewhere that those black sided Playstation type CDs are best for recording to, is that so?

Thanks

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Hi I was wanting recommendations on what "type" or brand of CD I should use to burn my music stored on HD. Everything is Apple Lossless and I have an audiophile setup. I heard somewhere that those black sided Playstation type CDs are best for recording to, is that so?

Thanks
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Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim are highly regarded for longetivity. As for Black CD-Rs, see [a href="http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=35502]this thread[/url].

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Playstation2 cds are black because they're not cds, but a similar optical disc technology. Black cd-rs are black because it's a gimmick.

As Defsac says, Taiyo Yuden is great, but you won't see anything with that name in a store. TDK almost always uses TY blanks, so that's a good bet. The last time I bought a stack they were Fujis that turned out to be taiyo yuden.

Verbatims are also very nice, though their special azo discs are sorta expensive. I have also heard, though not with any real confirmation, that their lower reflectivity can cause problems. Particularly when the discs get scratched. I used to use them for my data backups, since they got stored in hard cases and put a nice safe place with no scratch potential.

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Playstation2 cds are black because they're not cds, but a similar optical disc technology. Black cd-rs are black because it's a gimmick.

As Defsac says, Taiyo Yuden is great, but you won't see anything with that name in a store. TDK almost always uses TY blanks, so that's a good bet. The last time I bought a stack they were Fujis that turned out to be taiyo yuden.

Verbatims are also very nice, though their special azo discs are sorta expensive. I have also heard, though not with any real confirmation, that their lower reflectivity can cause problems. Particularly when the discs get scratched. I used to use them for my data backups, since they got stored in hard cases and put a nice safe place with no scratch potential.
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That would be Playstation one cds.  Playstation2 discs are based upon the dvd format and are not black.

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TDK almost always uses TY blanks, so that's a good bet.
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That's not true anymore.  Most TDK's I've seen recently are CMC.  You're best bet is to look for "Made In Japan" on the packaging.
"You can fight without ever winning, but never win without a fight."  Neil Peart  'Resist'

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That's not true anymore.  Most TDK's I've seen recently are CMC.  You're best bet is to look for "Made In Japan" on the packaging.

Huh. Good thing I haven't bought any TDKs recently. I will keep that in mind. Though I haven't been burning a lot of cdrs recently, since I got a DVD burner. And when I do burn cds I frequently use 90min blanks. It's hard to find good brand 90 minute cds.

Made in Japan is a good idea. OTOH it doesn't work for Sony... What about Fuji? Do they still say Japan on their non-TY discs, or do they say Taiwan or China? For a long time you could tell TY cds from the frosted inner ring, but I think other makers started copycating that. Plus most stacks you see in the store don't let you see it.

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Maxell CD-R Pro blanks, made in Japan and available at Wal-Mart on a 25-spool for approximately $10 U.S., are always Taiyo Yuden.

Regards,
Madrigal

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That would be Playstation one cds.  Playstation2 discs are based upon the dvd format and are not black.
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Actually, he's right and wrong in a way. There are CD-ROM based PS2 games (usually very early ones such as SSX), and these are dark purple. Newer games are larger and so use the silver bottom DVD-Rs. However, they are perfectly valid Mode 2 CDs that can be read in a CD-ROM drive, not a different optical format. Similarly, the DVD based games are valid DVD-ROM format.

The thing that makes them different from regular media is when they are pressed they have a code printed on a non-writable area of the disc which the PS2 checks prior to running the game.

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That's not true anymore.  Most TDK's I've seen recently are CMC.  You're best bet is to look for "Made In Japan" on the packaging.
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I can confirm my TDK 50 CD-R spindle is CMC OEM. The TDK singles which I purchased at the same time are TY, and they say "Certified Plus" on the center ring.

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Verbatims are also very nice, though their special azo discs are sorta expensive. I have also heard, though not with any real confirmation, that their lower reflectivity can cause problems.


I've also heard that Metal Azo (dark bue) can be tough for some CD players....

But their newer Super Azo are just like TY's cyanine, it is light cyan in color.
haven't heard of any reading problems with their newer Super Azo

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You can order Taiyo Yuden discs online from Super Media Store.

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. And when I do burn cds I frequently use 90min blanks. It's hard to find good brand 90 minute cds.[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=313739"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
There is no such thing as "good 90 min CD-Rs". No reputable manufacturer produces discs so out of spec. I would not trust those discs with my data, if I were you.

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There is no such thing as "good 90 min CD-Rs". No reputable manufacturer produces discs so out of spec. I would not trust those discs with my data, if I were you.[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=314548"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

TDK manufacture 90 min CD-Rs. I agree they are out of specs, but they are of good quality and I think they should be ok for data (not great, but OK).

@rosso: Find some Taiyo Yuden blanks (Verbatim Pastel or Plextor, for instance), Verbatim DataLifePlus (avoid Crystal), Verbatim Vinyl or anything labelled "made in Japan".

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There is no such thing as "good 90 min CD-Rs". No reputable manufacturer produces discs so out of spec. I would not trust those discs with my data, if I were you.
The ones I use now are Prodisc, which is good enough for what I'm doing with them. When I do backup of personal or important stuff I use better stuff.

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TDK manufacture 90 min CD-Rs. I agree they are out of specs, but they are of good quality and I think they should be ok for data (not great, but OK).
Are you sure? They don't show them in their website.

I have seen supposed Taiyo Yuden 90min cds for sale in the net, but I'm pretty sure they were counterfeit. I think the way to get the best possible quality 90m cdrs is to buy the unbranded ones from a quality store. I don't know what "extra data" method is best: 90min blanks, Plextor's Gigarec, or XCD.

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TDK manufacture 90 min CD-Rs.
Full ATIP, please.
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I agree they are out of specs, but they are of good quality
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I'll believe it when I see it. You need to show some BLER+ beta/jitter scans to back up the claim.

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Sorry about the late reply. I totally forgot about this thread.

So - the details:

a) ATIP

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ATIP info from disk - Read by Feurio 1.68
Recorder:                   LITE-ON - DVDRW SOHW-812S
ATIP start of lead in:      -02:44:70  (sector: -12370)
ATIP start of lead out:     91:01:48  (sector: 409623)
Manufacturer code:          97 15 05 - TDK Corporation  (Type: 5)
Reference speed:            -
Minimum recording speed:    -
Maximum recording speed:    -
Unrestriced use:            No
Disc type:                  Not Rewriteable
Disc subtype:               Medium Type B, low Beta category (B-)
Target writing power:       5
Power multiplication factor:-
Target y value:             -
Erase/writer power ratio:   -

b) scans

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Yes, looks like the real deal. Thank you for the information.