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Getting started customizing foobar

Reply #25
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..., but 2 hrs of rooting through the forums is already way more time then someone should have to spend to set up an audio player
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Well what most people seem to forget here is that FB2K already works perfectly fine just out of the box. There really shouldn't be any need to to tweak it any further except if the user wants to.
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I realize that I am saying this in a foobar zealot forum, but I disagree. While foobar does indeed play music out of the box, it is very difficult to navigate as it just puts all the songs in 1 list. Very few things in foobar have been intuitive for me. Maybe Ill give it a bit time this weekend and see what I can do

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Reply #26
You can't expect that damn thing to read your brain!

If you want it to do things the way you want it, you have to make sure it knows.


Anywho - this is my foobar at present. Any suggestions for things I could do? (like that tabbed thing to switch between album cover and track info)

[a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/Tool_Meep_Meep/screenies/foobar_insane.jpg" target="_blank"]


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hi

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Reply #27
read the links given:
http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar/sidebar.html

read the tips at the end of the page:
http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar/tabs.html

to have a map of the site, it's here (it will simplify your search I hope):
http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar/map.html

all of that was in the link I gave:
http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar/

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Reply #28
Ta muchly
hi

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Reply #29
@ tool++

could I get your config? looks nice to me.

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Reply #30
Let's compare foobar2000 to a car. When you buy it, it works perfectly well for everything it's ment to do. But, if you've just watched a movie like the fast and the furious, and want your car to look like that, you have the invest some serious time and money. Alternatively just money if you're prepared to pay someone to do it for you. If you don't have the patience or money, and need someone to hold your hand, don't get into the tuning scene and don't even consider a kit car, as it's just not for you. Simple as that, and not very surprising either...

As I see it, foobar2000 can be just like any other hobby. I happen to love music, and because of that, I enjoy customizing my player to look and feel the way that suits my taste and listening habbits. If all you do is to put a few tracks or albums in a playlist and press play, you probably have no clue what I'm talking about, and you certainly don't need things like multiple playlists, playlist generator, db search, media library and the numerous other components that enhances the navigation of a large and diverse collection. IMHO, to get the most out of it, you will also benefit from having an open mind, and be willing to try doing things in new ways.

Btw:
$select(n,a,b,c,....) is very useful for displaying e.g. %artist% and %album% only once for each album. Cleaner than alot of $if() statements.
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$select($min(3,%tracknumber%),%album artist%,%album%,)

 

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Reply #31
the playing order button (brown(or drak grey) and grey), to make it look like this, it is linked to your windows theme or did you do something to make it look like this only in foobar?

(and activate Lock the toolbar, it won't show any longer the multiple orange squares. Personally I think it's more pretty)

[span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%']Just a few words about colors in general..[/span]

I see a lot of people using pure white, I think that it is a tiring color, white is very bright color and it increases the visual tiredness, instead of the "real" white (255 255 255) using a "dirty" white is less painful for the eyes (about 240 everywhere is already better). the extreme colors are always very "hard" for eyes. (It's my personal view..)

personally, I use a pastel yellow:

which is really less tiring for your eyes (for my windows, not only foobar, moreover, it is one og the common colors displayed when you have to choose between common colors in  softwares). The choice of colors is always kind of a real mess. When I see one of my friends choosing his colors I always suffer, it seems that he has no taste at all (I do not pretend to have some graphic genius, but I think that I "find" better combinations).

I prefer using colors used in website as it is sometime chosen by graphists designers who always find colors that a common person (as I) won't find (for example, the blue shades of hydrogen audio are really great but finding those two colors by myself would have been a real sinecure)

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Reply #32
:-) Thats why i'm one of those few "dark-desktop" users. It's less a matter of taste for me - but i just seem to be more sensible to color-saturation. Unfortunatelly, i have to deal with all those apps and websites which override only the back- or foreground-color of something, but not both at once as it should be done.

But i agree - using non-full saturation is much more easy for the eyes - but maybe this is also a matter of biology and some just are less sensible to saturation.

- Lyx
I am arrogant and I can afford it because I deliver.

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Reply #33
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@ tool++

could I get your config? looks nice to me.


Sure, no problem!

[a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/Tool_Meep_Meep/screenies/foobar_immense.jpg" target="_blank"] Just takes the edge off.

Anyone know the answer to these?

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What are the tags/control codes for making text bold (and other formatting) etc?

How do I use an if so that there's a specific criteria, so for instance, if the comment of a file has *tool++* in it (currently the if only works to detect if a tagz is specified, you can't check what it contains AFAIK


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hi

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Reply #34
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... a matter of biology and some just are less sensible to saturation.

...or less sensible to color at all, look at the gallery 
Need a pill ? ..pimp ya foo - pimp yaself..

..ne klar, dann aeh, ciao ne!

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Reply #35
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...or less sensible to color at all, look at the gallery  :)
Need a pill ? ..pimp ya foo - pimp yaself..

..ne klar, dann aeh, ciao ne!
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Thats common behaviour. Most people match their desktop(and player) either to how they feel, or how they would like to be like. To some extend, i do that as well.

BTW: spezifish aka spezies_##### ?
I am arrogant and I can afford it because I deliver.

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BTW: spezifish aka spezies_##### ?

close, but it was spezies_#.#+#
I don't know how to feel and what I want to be anyway, whatever, better don't spend a fit - give yourself a chance..

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close, but it was spezies_#.#+#
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Hmm, then either there are two guys with a very similiar name, both from germany, or you once had a ##### version of it as well. Do the names sky, ParadoX and Moon sound familiar to you?

- Lyx
I am arrogant and I can afford it because I deliver.

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Reply #38
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Hmm, then either there are two guys with a very similiar name, both from germany, or you once had a ##### version of it as well. Do the names sky, ParadoX and Moon sound familiar to you?

I know these words    hmm, I don't know what you are searching for, but it's outside, believe me - I am punished to write down secret stuff, therefore my appearance.
for more, check profile, an old trick

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Reply #39
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have you checked the box that says "Use custom color spec"?  That one stumped me for a while when I was starting out.
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yep, that worked THX!. Didn't notice that 
now i have a stylish, yet still fast, title-formatting string
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personally, I use a pastel yellow:
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which is really less tiring for your eye
What monitor do you have?, How is it possible that that colour is less tireing than pure white? I don't want to flame you, but i don't see the difference (tireing-wise). Pure white and black is the theme of my Visual Style (Foton VS) so it matches perfectly, the grey parts in my string do ruin it a bit though... (And btw, everything on there is FBFBFB apart from the first 4 or 3 tracks and the area in the artist column beyond track 3-4)
It would be even more tiring if the colours did not match, ie. having a black themed foobar with a white themed visual style... it would just kill your eyes

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use:
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$if($strcmp(%comment%,'tool++'),,)
or you could use $stricmp (which is case sensitive)

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Reply #40
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use:
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$if($strcmp(%comment%,'tool++'),,)
or you could use $stricmp (which is case sensitive)
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Thanks - are there wildcards?

For instance, my comment isn't always exactly the same, so in theory it'd be best to look for *tool++* but that doesn't seem to work.
hi

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Thanks - are there wildcards?

For instance, my comment isn't always exactly the same, so in theory it'd be best to look for *tool++* but that doesn't seem to work.
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Sadly, there are no RegExp or something similiar. But you can search for the occurence of a "substring" in a string.

That is, if a comment tag contains "tool", then doing...
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$if($strstr(%comment%,'oo'),'oo was found','oo was not found')

...will detect the first occurence of 'oo' in the comment-tag. BTW: you can not just use $strstr() for IF-checks, but also for other stuff, because $strstr() does return the char-position at which the substring was found in the string. If it was not found, it will return 0.

- Lyx
I am arrogant and I can afford it because I deliver.

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What monitor do you have?, How is it possible that that colour is less tireing than pure white? I don't want to flame you, but i don't see the difference (tireing-wise). Pure white and black is the theme of my Visual Style (Foton VS) so it matches perfectly, the grey parts in my string do ruin it a bit though... (And btw, everything on there is FBFBFB apart from the first 4 or 3 tracks and the area in the artist column beyond track 3-4)
It would be even more tiring if the colours did not match, ie. having a black themed foobar with a white themed visual style... it would just kill your eyes

contrast is also tiring for eyes, but as I use this yellow and all is written in black, the contrast between yellow and black is less important than between black and white.. Not saying that you don't have the feeling to take a lamp light in the head to made you avow an hidden crime (that really  kills my eyes)

But as I said above, feeling about colors is very personal and I just gave my own opinion about the matter.. (as the Roman said: Gustibus et coloribus, non disputaban: taste and colors is not a topic about which arguing is important)

edit, I use a dell 19' screen but I used the same color with all my screens.. that is to say, for about nearly 6-7 years..

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Reply #43
Thanks for that, lyx

With colours, I find that rash contrast gets kinda annoying, but moderate contrast (dark grey and white) is okay.

TBH I don't like 100% black for anything other than text, its too hard. But as the roman dude said, there's no point arguing as everyone has different taste.
hi

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Reply #44
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Let's compare foobar2000 to a car. When you buy it, it works perfectly well for everything it's ment to do. But, if you've just watched a movie like the fast and the furious, and want your car to look like that, you have the invest some serious time and money. Alternatively just money if you're prepared to pay someone to do it for you. If you don't have the patience or money, and need someone to hold your hand, don't get into the tuning scene and don't even consider a kit car, as it's just not for you. Simple as that, and not very surprising either...

As I see it, foobar2000 can be just like any other hobby. I happen to love music, and because of that, I enjoy customizing my player to look and feel the way that suits my taste and listening habbits. If all you do is to put a few tracks or albums in a playlist and press play, you probably have no clue what I'm talking about, and you certainly don't need things like multiple playlists, playlist generator, db search, media library and the numerous other components that enhances the navigation of a large and diverse collection. IMHO, to get the most out of it, you will also benefit from having an open mind, and be willing to try doing things in new ways.


Well, foobar is more like a car without a driving wheel that only goes straight. Yes, it can clearly be alot more after tweeking, but I expect more then a play button. Even with available GUIs I cant find one that offers simple library management such as that available in most basic players (ie 3 colums that change depending on what is selected in the columm before it). Believe me, Im not trying to knock foobar. I would love a powerful easy to use audio player with a small footprint. But right now I just cant get the functionality I get w/ winamp (and Im not complete thrilled w/ winamp). I really dont like iTunes. The dbpower amp suite is powerful but the player is very unatractive and the suite is very fractured. So if foobar could meet my needs w/ the correct gui I would be all over it. But I cant find it.

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Well, foobar is more like a car without a driving wheel that only goes straight. Yes, it can clearly be alot more after tweeking, but I expect more then a play button. Even with available GUIs I cant find one that offers simple library management such as that available in most basic players (ie 3 colums that change depending on what is selected in the columm before it). Believe me, Im not trying to knock foobar. I would love a powerful easy to use audio player with a small footprint. But right now I just cant get the functionality I get w/ winamp (and Im not complete thrilled w/ winamp). I really dont like iTunes. The dbpower amp suite is powerful but the player is very unatractive and the suite is very fractured. So if foobar could meet my needs w/ the correct gui I would be all over it. But I cant find it.
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Why don't you just use album list and/or database search? IMO they're really great for "simple library management" (especially the database search).

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Reply #46
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Well, foobar is more like a car without a driving wheel that only goes straight. Yes, it can clearly be alot more after tweeking, but I expect more then a play button. Even with available GUIs I cant find one that offers simple library management such as that available in most basic players (ie 3 colums that change depending on what is selected in the columm before it). Believe me, Im not trying to knock foobar. I would love a powerful easy to use audio player with a small footprint. But right now I just cant get the functionality I get w/ winamp (and Im not complete thrilled w/ winamp). I really dont like iTunes. The dbpower amp suite is powerful but the player is very unatractive and the suite is very fractured. So if foobar could meet my needs w/ the correct gui I would be all over it. But I cant find it.


Well maybe one day you'll just have to learn that getting insane configurability comes at a cost - you actually have to configure it. Noone's forcing you to use foobar. I expect a lot of IE users hated to way that you had to set up firefox and install a shitload of extension to get the most of it. Sure, you have a invest a few hours effort to get foobar working nicely, but it sure does pay off - this is one of a long line of PC programs that are more suited to people with an attention span longer than that of a gnat.
hi

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Reply #47
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Even with available GUIs I cant find one that offers simple library management such as that available in most basic players (ie 3 colums that change depending on what is selected in the columm before it).
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"Try to think outside the box."

It's not like this would be a particlularly good way to handle a database (nevermind the epitome of library searching)
A riddle is a short sword attached to the next 2000 years.