Nero AAC, listening test :-) |
Nero AAC, listening test :-) |
Nov 27 2002, 13:19
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Nero MPEG4 developer Group: Developer Posts: 1466 Joined: 22-September 01 Member No.: 8 |
Hi, - before releasing final version I would like to hear audiophiles opinion about two noise allocation strategies we can use.
These two versions will be called "build_a" and "build_b" I've packed some of the essential "codec killers" samples in build_a.zip and build_b.zip - originals could be easily found on hydrogenaduio and mp3dev http://www.psytel-research.co.yu/test/ BUILD A: http://www.psytel-research.co.yu/test/build_a.zip BUILD B: http://www.psytel-research.co.yu/test/build_b.zip Which one is better, and for which samples? Files are CBR - 80, 96 and 128 kbps - 32 and 44.1 kHz sampling rate - ADIF AAC format This post has been edited by Ivan Dimkovic: Nov 27 2002, 13:21 |
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Jun 4 2003, 05:22
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![]() ABC/HR developer, ff123.net admin Group: Developer (Donating) Posts: 1396 Joined: 24-September 01 Member No.: 12 |
roberto,
I got your file. I verified that when I loaded up the five samples, and then added the original as the 6th sample, it worked (or rather it didn't work) just like you said. Then I made all of the samples the original, and that worked properly. I think I remember that I check the WAV properties of each file prior to each test. That is, I need to know which file will end last, so that I can play this file all the way to the end instead of cutting it off short. The bottom line is that this behavior is still caused by an WAV file that is different somehow from the typical WAV file. I opened atrain_1.wav in Cool Edit, and then saved it as a new WAV file, atrain_1a.wav. The old file causes problems, but the new one doesn't. A binary file comparison (using the DOS command "fc") yields the following differences: Comparing files ATrain_1.wav and ATRAIN_1A.WAV 0000001C: 90 10 0000001D: C0 B1 0000001E: CD 02 I'll look this up to see what the difference is. ff123 |
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Ivan Dimkovic Nero AAC, listening test :-) Nov 27 2002, 13:19
Dibrom I moved the thread to the news section.. it'll... Nov 27 2002, 15:23
Dibrom Result So Far:
Castanets - 44.1khz@128kbps - Buil... Nov 27 2002, 15:33
SK1 OH YEAH!
OK, starting to test. This thread wil... Nov 27 2002, 17:57
guruboolez ··· gURuBoOleZZ results (work in progress) ···
I... Nov 27 2002, 18:40
SK1 Forget ABXing, what's the use?? It's not l... Nov 27 2002, 19:07
guruboolez QUOTE (SK1 @ Nov 27 2002 - 07:07 PM)Forget AB... Nov 27 2002, 19:13
SK1 Fair enough ... Nov 27 2002, 19:14
Mac I wish I could help more, I don't have the ear... Nov 28 2002, 11:55
JohnV What bothers me is the NIN-becoming sample and its... Nov 28 2002, 13:08
Mac I noticed the start of the NIN sample was horrible... Nov 28 2002, 16:15
wildboar The beginning of the NIN clip should have a consta... Nov 28 2002, 18:45
JohnV QUOTE (Mac @ Nov 28 2002 - 05:15 PM)I noticed... Nov 28 2002, 22:21
smok3 44 khz/128 kbit:
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velvet_44khz_128_aac... Dec 1 2002, 03:45
JohnV As Ivan said, all the originals can be found in th... Dec 1 2002, 04:19
smok3 tnx johnV i found most, which one is 41_30s ? (thi... Dec 1 2002, 04:32
JohnV QUOTE (smok3 @ Dec 1 2002 - 05:32 AM)tnx john... Dec 1 2002, 07:58
Ivan Dimkovic Ok, attack issues with NIN_becoming.wav should be... Dec 10 2002, 15:42
Phobos OHH BOY, THOSE NEW SAMPLES ARE MAD!!! ... Dec 10 2002, 20:14
guruboolez It's hard to find a difference between 2.30 sa... Dec 10 2002, 20:57
Ivan Dimkovic There is a big difference, at least with NIN_beco... Dec 10 2002, 21:32
guruboolez I will try.
I tried again velved, properly decoded... Dec 10 2002, 21:43
guruboolez Confirmed. (I'm not dreaming : there is no NIN... Dec 10 2002, 23:13
menno QUOTE (guruboolez @ Dec 10 2002 - 09:43 PM)Th... Dec 10 2002, 23:15
guruboolez I downloaded this file :
http://www.inf.ufpr.br/~... Dec 10 2002, 23:27
menno Yes, everything is affected. I'll make sure Ro... Dec 10 2002, 23:32
guruboolez Thanks.
I used CoolEdit for one practical reason. ... Dec 10 2002, 23:56
menno Ok, new CoolEdit filter is now available from Rare... Dec 11 2002, 09:30
ak QUOTE (menno @ Dec 11 2002 - 10:30 AM)I also ... Dec 11 2002, 10:16
guruboolez Thanks, it works fine now.
Glad to see that I... Dec 11 2002, 14:03
ff123 QUOTE (guruboolez @ Dec 11 2002 - 05:03 AM)Th... Dec 11 2002, 16:45
rjamorim I'm going through a similar problem here. Only... Jun 3 2003, 01:42
ff123 rjamorim,
Regarding your recent inquiry (2 June 0... Jun 3 2003, 15:40
rjamorim I did another test.
This time, I used another sam... Jun 3 2003, 21:44
ff123 QUOTE (rjamorim @ Jun 3 2003 - 12:44 PM)I did... Jun 3 2003, 22:04
rjamorim QUOTE (ff123 @ Jun 3 2003 - 06:04 PM)P.S., if... Jun 3 2003, 22:16
rjamorim Great news, ff123. Thanks a lot for taking a look ... Jun 4 2003, 05:37
ff123 QUOTE (rjamorim @ Jun 3 2003 - 08:37 PM)Great... Jun 4 2003, 05:52
ff123 BTW, it looks like that field is redundant, and th... Jun 4 2003, 06:00
rjamorim QUOTE (ff123 @ Jun 4 2003 - 01:52 AM)The prob... Jun 4 2003, 06:08
menno Hello ff123,
Yes FAAD2 used to have a little bug ... Jun 4 2003, 09:55
rjamorim QUOTE (menno @ Jun 4 2003 - 05:55 AM)But of c... Jun 4 2003, 18:21
ff123 QUOTE (rjamorim @ Jun 4 2003 - 09:21 AM)If th... Jun 4 2003, 19:23
rjamorim QUOTE (ff123 @ Jun 4 2003 - 03:23 PM)What... Jun 4 2003, 19:47
ff123 Cool. How many samples are you going to try? Sou... Jun 4 2003, 20:16
rjamorim QUOTE (ff123 @ Jun 4 2003 - 04:16 PM)Cool.... Jun 4 2003, 20:31
Tripwire If you take WMA9, be sure to use both Std and Pro. Jun 4 2003, 21:33
rjamorim QUOTE (Tripwire @ Jun 4 2003 - 05:33 PM)If yo... Jun 4 2003, 21:39
spoon How do Codecs with VBR fit in with 128Kbps? to be ... Jun 4 2003, 22:25
rjamorim QUOTE (spoon @ Jun 4 2003 - 06:25 PM)How do C... Jun 4 2003, 22:33
guruboolez QUOTE (rjamorim @ Jun 4 2003 - 09:39 PM)QUOTE... Jun 4 2003, 22:41
rjamorim QUOTE (guruboolez @ Jun 4 2003 - 06:41 PM)The... Jun 4 2003, 22:52
spoon The profile options for WMApro are 2 channel only ... Jun 4 2003, 23:04
ff123 QUOTE (rjamorim @ Jun 4 2003 - 01:52 PM)QUOTE... Jun 4 2003, 23:13![]() ![]() |
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