My LAME tests |
My LAME tests |
Feb 18 2003, 22:33
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Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 18-February 03 Member No.: 5062 |
Hi forum people,
After following the various posts arguing for and against the transparency of LAME and it's various bitrates and encoding methods, I decided to put my ears to the test and try a blind test with a variety of modes. The piece of music used was track 5 from "Faith - A Message From The Spirits" on the Soul Jazz label, which is an album of religious music from around the world. More specifically, the piece in question is a solo percussion piece on Djouba, which sound more or less like bongos (to me anyway!) so as you can imagine, the music is fast with great transient attack. Music ripped with EAC Secure/C2, encoded with LAME 3.94 a11 17Feb build, decoded using the MAD 0.14.2b plugin, listened to through an Echo Gina 20 digitally connected to a Marantz PM-75 amp, monitored on Sennheiser HD580 headphones. ABC/HR was used to audition the samples. Results: All cbr files are stereo, q2. All preset files use their respective settings in LAME. "CBR 192 EAC Filt" is 192Kbit Stereo Q2, with a lowpass filter (19383-19916Hz) that EAC includes, even if no command line option is set. ABC/HR Version 0.9b, 30 August 2002 Testname: 1R = D:\cdrips\test\preset 128.wav 2L = D:\cdrips\test\cbr 256 no filt.wav 3L = D:\cdrips\test\preset standard.wav 4L = D:\cdrips\test\preset cbr 192.wav 5L = D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 eac filt.wav 6L = D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 no filt.wav --------------------------------------- General Comments: --------------------------------------- 1R File: D:\cdrips\test\preset 128.wav 1R Rating: 2.0 1R Comment: --------------------------------------- 2L File: D:\cdrips\test\cbr 256 no filt.wav 2L Rating: 4.7 2L Comment: --------------------------------------- 3L File: D:\cdrips\test\preset standard.wav 3L Rating: 4.4 3L Comment: --------------------------------------- 4L File: D:\cdrips\test\preset cbr 192.wav 4L Rating: 3.9 4L Comment: --------------------------------------- 5L File: D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 eac filt.wav 5L Rating: 4.3 5L Comment: --------------------------------------- 6L File: D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 no filt.wav 6L Rating: 4.6 6L Comment: --------------------------------------- So, summing up, this test indicates to me that MP3, even if encoded by the latest LAME engine, is definitely not transparent up to and including 256Kbit. Not once was an MP3 mistakenly rated above the reference CD-Audio sample. The source material is very simple (solo bongo) which one would assume would be an easy task for an encoder. The standard preset fares quite well, but at the cost of file size (an 8% premium over 192Kbit CBR). Filtering does not benefit the sound, as shown by the difference in rating between the 5th and 6th samples, which are otherwise the same. To further investigate the comparison between filtered and non-filtered mp3, I made up a second ABC/HR test, this time comparing samples 5 and 6, the non-filtered sample as the reference, and the filtered sample as the comparator, 8 times over. ABC/HR Version 0.9b, 30 August 2002 Testname: 1L = D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 eac filt.wav 2L = D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 eac filt.wav 3L = D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 eac filt.wav 4R = D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 eac filt.wav 5R = D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 eac filt.wav 6L = D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 eac filt.wav 7R = D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 eac filt.wav 8L = D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 eac filt.wav --------------------------------------- General Comments: --------------------------------------- 1L File: D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 eac filt.wav 1L Rating: 4.0 1L Comment: --------------------------------------- 2L File: D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 eac filt.wav 2L Rating: 4.0 2L Comment: --------------------------------------- 3L File: D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 eac filt.wav 3L Rating: 4.0 3L Comment: --------------------------------------- 4R File: D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 eac filt.wav 4R Rating: 4.0 4R Comment: --------------------------------------- 5L File: D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 no filt.wav 5L Rating: 4.0 5L Comment: --------------------------------------- 6L File: D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 eac filt.wav 6L Rating: 4.0 6L Comment: --------------------------------------- 7R File: D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 eac filt.wav 7R Rating: 4.0 7R Comment: --------------------------------------- 8L File: D:\cdrips\test\cbr 192 eac filt.wav 8L Rating: 4.0 8L Comment: --------------------------------------- Only once did the filtered sample fare better than the untouched, unfiltered sound. So there you have it. |
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Feb 19 2003, 09:16
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WinABX developer Group: Developer Posts: 1578 Joined: 1-October 01 Member No.: 137 |
For the sake of rigorousness (statistical validity), I advise to try to ABX at least the highest quality encodes.
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tr1n1tr0n My LAME tests Feb 18 2003, 22:33
Secret Chief Yeah, MP3 certainly has its faults, which is why i... Feb 19 2003, 00:39
Garf QUOTE (KikeG @ Feb 19 2003 - 10:16 AM)For the... Feb 19 2003, 09:21
Garf QUOTE so as you can imagine, the music is fast wit... Feb 19 2003, 09:27
KikeG QUOTE (Garf @ Feb 19 2003 - 09:21 AM)QUOTE (K... Feb 19 2003, 10:59
Garf QUOTE (KikeG @ Feb 19 2003 - 11:59 AM)Also, i... Feb 19 2003, 11:30
LordofStars Some people have found the preecho of standard fro... Feb 19 2003, 18:36![]() ![]() |
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