samples where aps or ape has a problem Options

[2Bdecided]

I'm sure this has been asked before, but I can't find it, and it's not in the FAQ (it should be - please!)

On which samples is --alt-preset extreme audibly better than --alt-preset standard.
On which samples is --alt-preset insane audibly better than --alt-preset extreme.
On which samples is --alt-preset insane not transparent?

Cheers,
David.

[2Bdecided]

Thank you all for your responses. I went hunting and listening, and even found another one. To summarise, with --alt-preset standard, I hear the following:


awe22_20sec
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....=ST&f=16&t=2444
ABX 16/16 - the drum beats near the end have added noise

badvilbel
http://www.audio-illumination.org/forums/i...=ST&f=16&t=1059
I (unlike most other people) don't hear a problem - I didn't listen too much because I find the sound painful

birds
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....t=ST&f=16&t=821
ABX 16/16 0 If she's singing "let us beeecome", there's a blip in the left channel on "us"

dogwhistle
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....t=ST&f=16&t=579
I (unlike most other people) don't hear a problem - I didn't listen too much because I find the sound painful ;-)

drone_short
(url to first test?)
ABX 15/16 - sounds noisy during first sound - easy to hear (dropped on ABX due to lack of concentration!)

headache
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....t=ST&f=16&t=423
didn't test

erhu
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....=ST&f=16&t=4687
ABX 14/16 - blip in middle - easy (I almost didn't ABX - not sure what went wrong when I did?!?!)

liebestod
(url to first test?)
ABX 14/16 - difficult (for me) the background is rougher at points, but it's hidden by ambient noise (PC fan mainly) where I'm listening.

sophia2
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....t=ST&f=16&t=543
I (unlike most other people) can't hear a problem - and I did try!

trumpets1
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....=ST&f=16&t=3594
ABX 13/16 - to my ears, the end of the trumpet is less "rough" in the encoded version, but it's very hard to hear

vangelis1
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....=ST&f=16&t=1107
ABX 15/16 - the bass line has a different "character" - it's probably transient smearing, as previously suggested.


Of these, awe32_20sec, birds, erhu and liebestod make me think that, on music I'm likely to encode, there's a very small (but greater than zero) chance of an artefact being encoded. Whether I ever notice it is a different matter!

Cheers,
David.


P.S. Dibrom - does this answer:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....=ST&f=16&t=3594
still stand? No improvements on the horizon?

P.P.S. in case this thead is read by a newbie as an attack on aps/e/i, please remember that these settings are better than others out there for virtually every audio sample, easy or hard to encode.

P.P.P.S. I think "what samples is aps better than <whatever>" and "what are still problem samples for aps/e/i" should be prominently FAQed! I'm still finding people using FhG VBR! :-(