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Should i start using AAC? Can you notice a better quality?
Bahamut2
post Jan 2 2012, 06:19
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I have read everywhere that it is better than MP3, but will i be able to notice the difference?
I encode all my files to VBR -V0 and i don't know anything about AAC, what would be the equivalent encoding settings for AAC?

Can you people really notice that theyre is a reall difference in quality? I want to test it by myself (encoding always it max quality off course) but first i want to ask here.
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shadowking
post Jan 29 2012, 04:16
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The modern lossy bitrate is far too bloated. Comparisons for mp3 Vs AAC are difficult as the average bitrate is now 250 .. 300k . Several years back the motivation of AAC and others was to provide near transparency @ 128k and better handling for problem samples where mp3 192k wasn't cutting it. Other encoders used VBR to implement these improvements. An early example was the MPC encoder which gave great quality @ 160..200kbit

Things where really interesting back then on the lossy side of things - 2002 ~ 2006. The other thing is mp3 was always competitive at 192k if you don't count rare problem samples. Even then it could probably sound very acceptable and satisfy 90 something % of people . This is probably true even for the old CBR 192 encodings.

Where its at today you could have just stuck it out with 256 CBR mp3 ten yrs ago , ignored any audio lossy development since and still be competitive .


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post Jan 29 2012, 04:44
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QUOTE (shadowking @ Jan 28 2012, 22:16) *
The modern lossy bitrate is far too bloated. Comparisons for mp3 Vs AAC are difficult as the average bitrate is now 250 .. 300k . S

But I think video games and other entertainment media are still using sub-standard 128-160kbps mp3 or oggs.

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- Bahamut2   Should i start using AAC? Can you notice a better quality?   Jan 2 2012, 06:19
- - Ron Jones   Can I tell the difference between ~256kbps MP3 and...   Jan 2 2012, 07:04
- - Bahamut2   Im going to make my first ABX test soon, but i wan...   Jan 2 2012, 07:42
- - hlloyge   AAC is, technicaly, a bit more advanced codec than...   Jan 2 2012, 07:52
- - mjb2006   If you do hear a difference in a certain piece of ...   Jan 2 2012, 08:45
- - Bahamut2   I did a quick test with foobar and im surprised i ...   Jan 2 2012, 14:09
|- - markanini   QUOTE (Bahamut2 @ Jan 2 2012, 14:09) Anyw...   Jan 2 2012, 14:21
|- - Nessuno   QUOTE (markanini @ Jan 2 2012, 14:21) QUO...   Jan 10 2012, 20:26
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (Nessuno @ Jan 10 2012, 20:26) I fo...   Jan 12 2012, 12:05
|- - Nessuno   QUOTE (Porcus @ Jan 12 2012, 12:05) QUOTE...   Jan 12 2012, 16:44
||- - Porcus   QUOTE (Nessuno @ Jan 12 2012, 16:44) I wa...   Jan 12 2012, 19:50
|- - polemon   QUOTE (Porcus @ Jan 12 2012, 12:05) QUOTE...   Feb 2 2012, 03:45
- - lvqcl   An example of a problem sample (specific for Nero ...   Jan 2 2012, 14:29
- - apodtele   This is yet another "discussion" initiat...   Jan 2 2012, 15:53
|- - db1989   QUOTE (apodtele @ Jan 2 2012, 14:53) This...   Jan 2 2012, 16:03
- - subinbar   I think for most people to be able to tell the dif...   Jan 10 2012, 15:12
- - Porcus   QUOTE (Bahamut2 @ Jan 2 2012, 06:19) I en...   Jan 10 2012, 17:24
- - JunkieXL   I used to use LAME v1 for all of the files I would...   Jan 10 2012, 20:22
|- - Defsac   QUOTE (JunkieXL @ Jan 11 2012, 06:22) LAM...   Jan 23 2012, 09:40
|- - Nessuno   Anyway, if one uses XLD or any other QuickTime fro...   Jan 23 2012, 18:22
|- - slks   QUOTE (Nessuno @ Jan 23 2012, 11:22) Anyw...   Feb 1 2012, 10:13
|- - C.R.Helmrich   QUOTE (slks @ Feb 1 2012, 11:13) the rece...   Feb 1 2012, 22:43
- - Stillbruch   Hi everyone, This is my first post in this forum,...   Jan 12 2012, 11:00
|- - mjb2006   QUOTE (Stillbruch @ Jan 12 2012, 03:00) A...   Jan 12 2012, 11:47
|- - probedb   QUOTE (Stillbruch @ Jan 12 2012, 10:00) A...   Jan 12 2012, 12:15
|- - Nessuno   QUOTE (probedb @ Jan 12 2012, 12:15) QUOT...   Jan 12 2012, 15:42
- - Stillbruch   I apologise for that claim. Since English is not m...   Jan 12 2012, 15:23
- - HTS   Quick question. Wikipedia says: QUOTE The MPEG-2...   Jan 29 2012, 03:11
|- - IgorC   QUOTE (HTS @ Jan 28 2012, 23:11) Quick qu...   Jan 29 2012, 08:19
- - shadowking   The modern lossy bitrate is far too bloated. Compa...   Jan 29 2012, 04:16
|- - HTS   QUOTE (shadowking @ Jan 28 2012, 22:16) T...   Jan 29 2012, 04:44
|- - aprofromindia   QUOTE (shadowking @ Jan 29 2012, 05:16) T...   Jun 15 2013, 10:29
|- - TomasPin   QUOTE (aprofromindia @ Jun 15 2013, 06:29...   Jun 15 2013, 20:26
- - shadowking   Yes. What I am trying to say is that at 250..300k ...   Jan 29 2012, 06:12
- - zima   QUOTE (Bahamut2 @ Jan 2 2012, 07:42) I re...   Jan 29 2012, 12:59
|- - hlloyge   QUOTE (zima @ Jan 29 2012, 13:59) QUOTE (...   Jan 29 2012, 22:01
- - RobertoDomenico   iTunes Store is 256 AAC with no DRM everywhere no ...   Jan 29 2012, 13:58
- - HTS   Does anyone know what does apple mean by the 0-127...   Jan 29 2012, 19:38
- - lvqcl   Why do you think that it has some hidden meaning?   Jan 29 2012, 21:10
- - adlai   the answer is yes. I moved years ago and I haven...   Jan 29 2012, 23:05
|- - saratoga   QUOTE (adlai @ Jan 29 2012, 17:05) Also, ...   Jan 29 2012, 23:20
|- - adlai   most of it is for stupid stuff like tagging files ...   Jan 29 2012, 23:25
|- - saratoga   So if what you really meant is that Lame is active...   Jan 29 2012, 23:37
|- - Defsac   QUOTE (adlai @ Jan 30 2012, 09:25) most o...   Feb 27 2012, 09:57
|- - nu774   QUOTE (Defsac @ Feb 27 2012, 17:57) QUOTE...   Feb 27 2012, 11:29
|- - Defsac   QUOTE (nu774 @ Feb 27 2012, 21:29) QUOTE ...   Feb 27 2012, 12:37
|- - nu774   QUOTE (Defsac @ Feb 27 2012, 20:37) I ver...   Feb 27 2012, 14:24
|- - TechVsLife   As a practical matter, if you notice artifacts tha...   Mar 24 2012, 18:49
- - IgorC   3.99 fills bitrate gap between the V0 and CBR 320 ...   Jan 30 2012, 00:05
- - simonh   Personally, i'd say stick with what you know a...   Mar 24 2012, 21:35
- - RobertoDomenico   The only reason i would use AAC is if you live in ...   Mar 25 2012, 00:05
- - greynol   I presume you mean the problem when streaming from...   Mar 25 2012, 02:00
- - RobertoDomenico   It's not an actual fault of Lame, the issue is...   Mar 25 2012, 05:41
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|- - TomasPin   QUOTE (greynol @ Jun 15 2013, 16:31) It d...   Jun 15 2013, 20:57
- - db1989   It should be specified that -M is not a valid sw...   Jun 16 2013, 01:08


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