Onboard vs Cheap USB SoundCard? |
Onboard vs Cheap USB SoundCard? |
May 24 2012, 13:08
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Hey,
Up until now I have been using my Onboard Sound Card - ALC1200(Realtek). It suppose to be quite decent according to reviews (I'm mainly using it with Headphones). More technical information about it can be found here. Recently I purchased a set of new headphones that comes with a USB Soundcard: Steelseries USB Dongle. Technical information can be found here. Few questions based on the above: 1. Is any one of them significantly better than the other (spec-wise)? 2. Does Onboard card getting Amp on the way out by the motherboard? What about the USB soundcard? I tried to compare them using my ears, but the time it takes me to unplug and plug everything again (and change the output device in Windows) just takes too much for me to 'Remember' how to previous sounded. Or perhaps it just the difference was not that major for me to notice. Thanks. |
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May 25 2012, 15:10
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Group: Members Posts: 143 Joined: 22-November 05 Member No.: 25923 |
QUOTE You need a cable that connects speaker out (or line out, should be the same) to line in. You should enable line out for playback at maximum volume (without amplification) and line in (and *only* line in) for recording. RMAA will allow you to tune the volume when you start the test, do this by gradually increasing the line in volume until it just doesn't clip. It basically means however I can not perform this test on the External USB Card? as It doesn't have Line in, but only out (and a USB). |
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May 25 2012, 15:25
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It basically means however I can not perform this test on the External USB Card? as It doesn't have Line in, but only out (and a USB). You can loop back the line output from the USB card into the line in of another soundcard. This will limit the maximum possible result to the performance of the second soundcard, though, so you'd typically want to use the best you can get your hands on and RMAA that first. If you only have the built-in audio on your mainboard, you can RMAA that, and then use this set up to see if you get approximately the same result when you use the USB card line output into the mainboard line input. If the results are close, this means the USB is "no worse" than the mainboard. So you can only see if the USB is worse or not worse. You can't measure if it is better. |
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Tall-Guy Onboard vs Cheap USB SoundCard? May 24 2012, 13:08
pdq Without looking at the specs I would guess that bo... May 24 2012, 13:38
Brand Do a RMAA test with both of them. Also using diffe... May 24 2012, 15:45
DVDdoug QUOTE I tried to compare them using my ears, but t... May 24 2012, 17:58
probedb QUOTE (DVDdoug @ May 24 2012, 17:58) But ... May 25 2012, 08:51
AndyH-ha Not to create any big argument, but I see the most... May 25 2012, 07:34
Garf I'd second the advice to do an RMAA test. The ... May 25 2012, 09:50
soulsearchingsun QUOTE (Garf @ May 25 2012, 09:50) If you ... May 25 2012, 11:18

Garf QUOTE (soulsearchingsun @ May 25 2012, 12... May 25 2012, 14:46
Brand QUOTE (Garf @ May 25 2012, 10:50) get RMA... May 25 2012, 11:20
Tall-Guy I'm quite new to this, so let me know if I got... May 25 2012, 10:31
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Tall-Guy @ May 25 2012, 05:31... May 25 2012, 11:18
Garf QUOTE (Tall-Guy @ May 25 2012, 11:31... May 25 2012, 14:36
Tall-Guy Well, everything just become much easier. I was bo... May 25 2012, 14:35
Garf QUOTE (Tall-Guy @ May 25 2012, 15:35... May 25 2012, 15:17
Tall-Guy Ermm, Im getting:
"PROBLEM: The input level i... May 25 2012, 15:42
saratoga QUOTE (Tall-Guy @ May 25 2012, 10:42... May 25 2012, 15:58
Tall-Guy Found the issues. Next one :-)
PROBLEM: Inter-chan... May 25 2012, 16:17
Tall-Guy Thats the Onboard. May 25 2012, 17:32
Garf QUOTE (Tall-Guy @ May 25 2012, 18:32... May 25 2012, 17:44
Garf It's maybe farfetched, but I hope it's a s... May 25 2012, 17:41
Tall-Guy Well, it's a 3.5 jack in both sides. Is that a... May 25 2012, 17:50
Garf QUOTE (Tall-Guy @ May 25 2012, 18:50... May 25 2012, 19:14
Tall-Guy OK. I'm recapping everything and adding inform... May 25 2012, 18:53
Tall-Guy OK. I found the problem. It seems like the problem... May 25 2012, 19:24
Tall-Guy OK. I did some homework and spent some time readin... May 25 2012, 23:12
saratoga Note that unless you're using an external amp ... May 25 2012, 23:23
Tall-Guy QUOTE (saratoga @ May 26 2012, 01:23) Not... May 25 2012, 23:30
saratoga QUOTE (Tall-Guy @ May 25 2012, 18:30... May 25 2012, 23:34
Tall-Guy So, here's the results when I add a Splitter t... May 25 2012, 23:37
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Tall-Guy @ May 25 2012, 18:37... May 26 2012, 09:49
Garf QUOTE (Tall-Guy @ May 26 2012, 00:37... May 26 2012, 10:46
Tall-Guy Your speaking about the changes between the USB Ca... May 26 2012, 09:55
Tall-Guy So lets some it up:
Are the results supporting th... May 26 2012, 11:06
Garf QUOTE (Tall-Guy @ May 26 2012, 12:06... May 26 2012, 11:15
Tall-Guy QUOTE (Garf @ May 26 2012, 13:15) Your on... May 26 2012, 11:18
Brand The results between no splitter and splitter+headp... May 26 2012, 11:23
Garf By the way, your result on the headphone out being... May 26 2012, 11:30
Tall-Guy Ermm, I'm not sure about the headphones Volume... May 26 2012, 11:30
Tall-Guy You were right Brand, the Volume on the Headphones... May 26 2012, 11:48
Brand Based on what I see here I'd probably choose t... May 26 2012, 12:28
Garf Here are some results from an ALC898 (thanks to Ca... May 26 2012, 12:30
saratoga QUOTE (Garf @ May 26 2012, 07:30) I'm... May 26 2012, 19:35
Tall-Guy Brand,
Yes - I hardly believe I'll be listen t... May 26 2012, 13:09
saratoga QUOTE (Tall-Guy @ May 26 2012, 08:09... May 26 2012, 19:42
Tall-Guy saratoga,
Would the Headphones port be more ... May 26 2012, 20:26
saratoga QUOTE (Tall-Guy @ May 26 2012, 15:26... May 26 2012, 20:39
Tall-Guy It's not ear splitting, there is a good chance... May 26 2012, 21:30
saratoga QUOTE (Tall-Guy @ May 26 2012, 16:30... May 26 2012, 22:00
Tall-Guy I prefer to have them both plugged in at the same ... May 26 2012, 22:52
Brand There is a way to switch the outputs on/off in the... May 27 2012, 12:09
Tall-Guy It's working Brand, Thank you :-)
One last qu... May 27 2012, 19:42
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (Tall-Guy @ May 27 2012, 14:42... May 28 2012, 12:12
Tall-Guy Well, Drivers (Video and Audio) are already update... May 28 2012, 12:32
phofman When my little tripath amp was powered from intern... May 28 2012, 13:51
Tall-Guy OK. Solved.
What I did basically was to open the ... May 29 2012, 08:26![]() ![]() |
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