DAC that handles intersample overs |
DAC that handles intersample overs |
Oct 23 2012, 16:32
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I was tipped off to this on an audio mailing list and thought it might be of interest here -- Benchmark has released a consumer DAC that (among other features) allows 3.5dB of headroom to account for correct reconstruction of intersample overs (peaks between samples that exceed 0dbFS, which are said to be "common in commercial releases")
http://www.benchmarkmedia.com/dac/dac2-hgc QUOTE High Headroom DSP - with 3.5 dB "Excess" Digital Headroom All of the digital processing in the DAC2 HGC is designed to handle signals as high as +3.5 dBFS. Most digital systems clip signals that exceed 0 dBFS. The 0 dBFS limitation seems reasonable, as 0 dBFS is the highest sinusoidal signal level that can be represented in a digital system. However, a detailed investigation of the mathematics of PCM digital systems will reveal that inter-sample peaks may reach levels slightly higher than +3 dBFS while individual samples never exceed 0 dBFS. These inter-sample overs are common in commercial releases, and are of no consequence in a PCM system until they reach an interpolation process. But, for a variety of reasons, virtually all audio D/A converters use an interpolation process. The interpolation process is absolutely necessary to achieve 24-bit state-of-the art conversion performance. Unfortunately, inter-sample overs cause clipping in most interpolators. This clipping produces distortion products that are non-harmonic and non-musical . We believe these broadband distortion products often add a harshness or false high-frequency sparkle to digital reproduction. The DAC2 HGC avoids these problems by maintaining at least 3.5 dB of headroom in the entire conversion system. We believe this added headroom is a groundbreaking improvement. disclaimer: i neither work for Benchmark nor own a Benchmark DAC ;> Claims about reduced 'high frequency sparkle' taken with a grain of salt. This post has been edited by krabapple: Oct 23 2012, 16:33 |
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Oct 25 2012, 15:31
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QUOTE Could you give r128gain a try? I'd love to oblige and once I've figured out what it does, how to make it do it and how to prevent it doing anything I don't want it too I will. |
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krabapple DAC that handles intersample overs Oct 23 2012, 16:32
greynol QUOTE (krabapple @ Oct 23 2012, 08:32) We... Oct 23 2012, 17:36
RonaldDumsfeld I wonder how they do it? How can you represent a v... Oct 23 2012, 19:20
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (RonaldDumsfeld @ Oct 23 2012, 14:2... Oct 23 2012, 20:25
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (RonaldDumsfeld @ Oct 23 2012, 14:2... Oct 26 2012, 15:12
pbelkner QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Oct 26 2012, 15... Oct 27 2012, 05:56
DVDdoug QUOTE I wonder how they do it? How can you represe... Oct 23 2012, 20:15
AndyH-ha The DAC's output is an analogue voltage swing.... Oct 23 2012, 22:07
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (AndyH-ha @ Oct 23 2012, 17:07... Oct 24 2012, 13:51
[JAZ] There are several sentences that sound strange to ... Oct 23 2012, 22:17
Wombat I am absolutely no expert at this but may it be as... Oct 23 2012, 22:30
AndyH-ha Considering the general state of decent hardware, ... Oct 23 2012, 23:16
Arnold B. Krueger QUOTE (AndyH-ha @ Oct 23 2012, 18:16... Oct 24 2012, 13:59
pdq Upsampling would involove multiplying a set of dat... Oct 24 2012, 10:55
RonaldDumsfeld I know the OP is talking about inter sample overs ... Oct 24 2012, 13:13
pbelkner QUOTE (RonaldDumsfeld @ Oct 24 2012, 13:1... Oct 24 2012, 15:45
2Bdecided @RonaldDumsfeld, many modern pop CDs are near clip... Oct 24 2012, 15:22
greynol QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Oct 24 2012, 07:22) Th... Oct 24 2012, 15:32
2Bdecided QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 24 2012, 15:32) QUOT... Oct 24 2012, 16:46
lvqcl Probably this -
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/foru... Oct 24 2012, 17:00
Speedskater A sometimes technical and sometimes not E-mail gro... Oct 24 2012, 18:06
gymnos some of the topics of this discussion were covered... Oct 24 2012, 21:47
krabapple Yes, but that work is a decade old. Are pro DACs ... Oct 25 2012, 05:37
pbelkner QUOTE (RonaldDumsfeld @ Oct 25 2012, 15:3... Oct 25 2012, 16:19
RonaldDumsfeld ^^ I'd already done that.
It opens a command ... Oct 25 2012, 18:42
Wombat I wonder if these inter-sample peaks are a problem... Oct 27 2012, 16:55
pbelkner QUOTE (Wombat @ Oct 27 2012, 16:55) I won... Oct 27 2012, 18:08
lvqcl Several posts in this thread are relevant to this ... Oct 27 2012, 19:22
bandpass Sounds like this DAC is just what I need for my am... Oct 27 2012, 19:45
Dynamic Thomas Lund has measured intersample over distorti... Oct 28 2012, 01:12![]() ![]() |
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