lame3100h, a functional extension |
lame3100h, a functional extension |
Dec 18 2012, 01:11
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Group: Members Posts: 2262 Joined: 9-October 05 From: Dormagen, Germany Member No.: 25015 |
You can download it from here.
What’s the functional extension? It offers additional VBR quality settings -V5+ to -V0+ which cover the average bitrate range from ~144 to ~300 kbps (for a variety of pop music): -V5+ 144 kbps -V4.5+ 160 kbps -V4+ 176 kbps -V3.5+ 192 kbps -V3+ 208 kbps -V2+ 224 kbps -V1.5+ 240 kbps -V1+ 256 kbps -V0.5+ 278 kbps -V0+ 300 kbps An alternative way to use the functional extension is --brV+ x, where x is the average bitrate (for a variety of pop music) you want to use. You can use for instance --brV+ 224 instead of -V2+. What is it good for? Lame’s moderate VBR quality settings like -V5 or -V4 usually yield a very good quality. That’s why many users are happy with these settings. Sometimes however tracks contain spots which are not encoded well. Many users want a better quality also for these rather rare events. From current experience Lame3.100 alpha2 seems to scale well quality of tonal problems with -Vn level, but temporal resolution can still be an issue. -Vn+ uses -Vn as the encoding basis, but adds a certain amount of brute-force safety by forcing audio data bitrate to a target bitrate which depends on -Vn+ level. Moreover care is taken to always provide maximum possible audio data space for the encoding of short blocks which are used when the encoder thinks it is appropriate for a good temporal resolution. Also Lame's default lowpass is lowered a bit in order to make best use of the encoded bits (use --lowpass x if you don't like this). Emphasis is on issues with temporal resolution, but tonal problems are tackled as well. In a sense -Vn+ combines the quality advantages of both VBR and CBR. Recommendations Users who care much about filesize and are content with the functional extension improving short block (pre-echo) behavior, can use -V5+ to -V4+. Users who don’t like rather obvious issues in their music even when they’re rare but who also care about filesize are best to choose from -V3.5+ to -V1.5+ according to their needs. For a significant potential for improving tonal issues -V3+ or better is recommended. Users who don’t care much about filesize but much more about universal top quality are best served by using -V1+ or V0+, or anything in between. Installation lame3100h.exe was compiled with Visual C++ 2010. For this reason it is necessary to install the Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package vcredist_x86.exe. You can download it from http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8328 lame3100h.exe uses the fast and lossless mp3packer tool internally to squeeze the otherwise unused bits out of the mp3 file. You can download mp3packer from http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....st&p=282289. Put mp3packer.exe into the same folder where lame3100h.exe is located. Many thanks to Omion for this great tool. In case there is no mp3packer.exe in lame3100h.exe’s folder lame3100h.exe will work, but the mp3 files will be somewhat larger than necessary. This post has been edited by halb27: Dec 18 2012, 01:27 -------------------- lame3100i -V0.5+ --adbr_short 480
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Dec 19 2012, 16:27
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Group: Members Posts: 60 Joined: 16-November 12 From: Kyoto, Japan Member No.: 104567 |
Sorry, I forgot to delete past mp3s and the results were a combination of
lame3100h -brV%v %i %o lame3100h --brV+ %v %i %o The only 144-300 section is the result of --brV+ %v. CODE lame3100h --brV+ %v %i %o 144 143518 145 150712 146 151222 147 151723 148 152186 149 152730 150 153276 151 153857 152 154381 153 154908 154 155439 155 156028 156 156618 157 157186 158 157809 159 158478 160 159543 161 160236 162 160974 163 161754 164 162568 165 163390 166 164271 167 165197 168 166145 169 167159 170 168224 171 169293 172 170447 173 171554 174 172759 175 173987 176 175258 177 176207 178 177174 179 178172 180 179124 181 180137 182 181121 183 182142 184 183136 185 184107 186 185079 187 186076 188 187113 189 188099 190 189082 191 190092 192 191156 193 192105 194 193085 195 194026 196 194903 197 195916 198 196857 199 197721 200 198653 201 199644 202 200595 203 201577 204 202464 205 203397 206 204396 207 205374 208 206293 209 208505 210 209517 211 210492 212 211328 213 212258 214 213229 215 214046 216 215058 217 216060 218 216894 219 217896 220 218912 221 219829 222 220857 223 221780 224 222684 225 223693 226 224617 227 225739 228 226710 229 227728 230 228821 231 229792 232 230682 233 231673 234 232697 235 233665 236 234751 237 235687 238 236712 239 237782 240 239031 241 240096 242 241108 243 242169 244 243188 245 244241 246 245264 247 246268 248 246957 249 247980 250 249062 251 250053 252 251081 253 252074 254 253103 255 254140 256 254897 257 255971 By the way, I prefer the --brV+ 320 to be redirected to --brV+ 300, meaning -V0+, because the 320 kBit/s bitrate selection box on EAC V1.0b3 can be used without errors. |
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Dec 19 2012, 20:56
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By the way, I prefer the --brV+ 320 to be redirected to --brV+ 300, meaning -V0+, because the 320 kBit/s bitrate selection box on EAC V1.0b3 can be used without errors. Personally, I would prefer that --brV+ 320 actually aim for ~320kbps, or result in an error code, rather than be redirected. But this is a simple preference. |
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halb27 lame3100h, a functional extension Dec 18 2012, 01:11
Kamedo2 Absolutely great, halb27! Thank you very much ... Dec 18 2012, 05:38
Kamedo2 Average bitrate on my set of pops and jazz albums.... Dec 18 2012, 19:53
BFG QUOTE (Kamedo2 @ Dec 18 2012, 12:53) Aver... Dec 18 2012, 23:05
Dynamic QUOTE (Kamedo2 @ Dec 18 2012, 18:53) Aver... Dec 19 2012, 03:05
BFG QUOTE (Dynamic @ Dec 18 2012, 20:05) So t... Dec 19 2012, 04:12
halb27 This is very strange.
I reject --brV+ values lower... Dec 19 2012, 11:19
halb27 I've changed --brV+ x behavior for x < 144 ... Dec 19 2012, 21:23
Kamedo2 QUOTE (halb27 @ Dec 20 2012, 05:23) I... Dec 20 2012, 15:59
MrJAck1983 When do you guys think you will release lame 3100 ... Dec 21 2012, 15:08
BFG QUOTE (MrJAck1983 @ Dec 21 2012, 08:08) W... Dec 21 2012, 15:26
MrJAck1983 QUOTE (BFG @ Dec 21 2012, 16:26) QUOTE (M... Dec 21 2012, 17:57
lunasnow if I use Lame
add -q0 or -h parameter can provide... Dec 27 2012, 15:14
[JAZ] Replied at the other thread Dec 27 2012, 17:55
o-l-a-v With command
CODE-S --noreplaygain -V1+ -%d
The p... Jan 2 2013, 12:02
lvqcl there should be a space between - and %d Jan 2 2013, 12:05
o-l-a-v QUOTE (lvqcl @ Jan 2 2013, 12:05) there s... Jan 2 2013, 12:27
goa pride what's the benefit using this lame3100h 32 bit... Jan 3 2013, 12:33
halb27 QUOTE (goa pride @ Jan 3 2013, 12:33) wha... Jan 7 2013, 21:40
Kamedo2 I'm almost ready for the MP3 224kbps ABC/HR li... Jan 7 2013, 14:43
halb27 QUOTE (Kamedo2 @ Jan 7 2013, 14:43) Shoul... Jan 7 2013, 21:52
Aleron Ives Why are you comparing VBR with 3.99.5 and 3.100h a... Jan 7 2013, 21:10
halb27 QUOTE (Aleron Ives @ Jan 7 2013, 21:10) W... Jan 7 2013, 22:02
SubV I've compiled the LAME3100h with SSE2 support,... Jan 14 2013, 20:01
FreaqyFrequency Awesome! Spasibo Sub! Jan 14 2013, 22:13
lock67ca So there's such an improvement over 3.99.5 tha... Jan 15 2013, 03:34
BFG QUOTE (lock67ca @ Jan 14 2013, 20:34) So ... Jan 15 2013, 06:00
Kamedo2 I used both halb27's original binary and SubV... Jan 15 2013, 15:14
SubV QUOTE (Kamedo2 @ Jan 15 2013, 18:14) I us... Jan 21 2013, 13:09
BFG Would it be possible to build a single 3.100h bina... Jan 21 2013, 17:16
halb27 From the Wikipedia on SSE2 I see differences are t... Jan 15 2013, 17:35
halb27 As far as I can see in the VC++ environment you ju... Jan 21 2013, 17:47
[JAZ] halb27 is correct (although the naming doesn't... Jan 21 2013, 19:49
halb27 It's not a long time ago that I wrote 'I h... Jan 23 2013, 15:15
Kamedo2 halb27, Is the new version available? I'm cons... Jan 24 2013, 18:15
halb27 I'm working on the new version. I guess it wil... Jan 24 2013, 20:30
halb27 Here comes version 3.100i for testing.
I've al... Feb 5 2013, 17:23
Jeff Flowerday QUOTE (halb27 @ Feb 5 2013, 09:23) As I w... Feb 5 2013, 20:59
Jeff Flowerday It is to bad the SSE compiled version doesn't ... Feb 5 2013, 21:59
halb27 Thanks for testing. But wouldn't it be a good ... Feb 5 2013, 22:25
Jeff Flowerday QUOTE (halb27 @ Feb 5 2013, 14:25) Thanks... Feb 5 2013, 23:01
IgorC Have tried SSE2 and non SSE2 version at V3+ and co... Feb 6 2013, 23:10
halb27 I heard the difference at second ~3.0, and I used ... Feb 6 2013, 23:18
halb27 I just retried using my favorite setting -V0.7+, a... Feb 7 2013, 10:49
Kamedo2 I encoded all of my 25 samples and test albums usi... Feb 7 2013, 17:40
Kamedo2 halb27, would you please get rid of the audible di... Feb 8 2013, 22:42
halb27 Sorry, I have no idea how to do that. I rather con... Feb 8 2013, 23:44
IgorC You're right, something is wrong with SSE2 ver... Feb 9 2013, 03:47
SubV QUOTE (IgorC @ Feb 9 2013, 06:47) In my o... Feb 10 2013, 14:05
halb27 Before publishing 3100i I will remove the SSE2 ver... Feb 10 2013, 21:44
halb27 I consider the --adbr-stop behavior I mentioned a ... Feb 11 2013, 14:39
lock67ca I'm still not completely comfortable using an ... Feb 12 2013, 00:44
halb27 Yes, 3.99.5f was the last 3.99.5 extension version... Feb 12 2013, 02:40
halb27 I've done another small change to 3100i concer... Feb 13 2013, 15:20
Kamedo2 I'll retest, because the result of the latest ... Feb 15 2013, 01:11
halb27 OK, so I publish the current 3100i as final in a n... Feb 15 2013, 09:31
shadowking I started to test 3.99.5 V1 V0+, 320k as well as t... Feb 25 2013, 14:49
Kamedo2 QUOTE (shadowking @ Feb 25 2013, 22:49) I... Feb 25 2013, 18:57
halb27 @shadowking:
Thank you very much for testing. Sou... Feb 25 2013, 19:32
shadowking I tried again 1st thing this morning with fresh ea... Feb 26 2013, 03:43
halb27 Looks like emese is easier for you to ABX than flo... Feb 26 2013, 07:36
shadowking I used 3100i -b320 :
Florida - To me CBR seems wo... Feb 26 2013, 12:22
halb27 Thank you for testing.
I 'e got a file 'A... Feb 26 2013, 14:18
BFG QUOTE (halb27 @ Feb 26 2013, 07:18) Thank... Feb 26 2013, 15:44
shadowking I've uploaded the sample here:
http://www.hyd... Feb 26 2013, 14:40
halb27 My ears probably aren't better. I am able to A... Feb 26 2013, 16:35![]() ![]() |
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