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MPEG Audio Collection 2.90

http://www.jfaul.de/
MPEG Audio Collection 2.90 (1st May 2001, 1.12 Mb)
MAC - an ultimate freeware utility for Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP

It is designed to organize your audio file collection. It is fast and easy to use, scans selected drives for supported audio files and lists them in an Explorer-style tree-view interface. You can retrieve all information about your audio collection and you can play files as well.

*added: support for Windows Media Audio files (*.wma)
*added: support for ID3v2.2.x tags
*added: support for ID3v1, ID3v2, APE tags in Monkey's Audio files
*added: support for ID3v2, APE tags in MPC/MPEGplus files
*added: support for ID3v2 tags in Ogg Vorbis files
*fixed: bug with Ogg Vorbis tag fields
*improved: new MPEG reading engine
*improved: encoder guessing for MPEG CBR files
Juha Laaksonheimo

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Reply #1
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Originally posted by JohnV
*added: support for ID3v2 tags in Ogg Vorbis files
these people should be shot
Microsoft Windows: We can't script here, this is bat country.

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Reply #2
Great program, but I agree with Peter... why add ID3v2 tag support to MAC, MPC and Ogg when it isn't supported in any of those?

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Reply #3
worse, id3v2 may damage those format and won't be read by anything else. blah.
Microsoft Windows: We can't script here, this is bat country.

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Reply #4
I just informed the people at #vorbis about id3v2 support.. and to put it mildly, they were NOT happy...

It was pointed out that Vorbis stream with id3v2 or even id3v1 is invalid.
Juha Laaksonheimo

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Reply #5
Heh. What's with this "English (Zimbabwe)" language choice?
The sky is blue.

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Reply #6
lets drop him a mail about the ID3v2 Tags

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Reply #7
Soon some moron will create an input plugin for Winamp that supports, or at least skips, ID3 tags.

It already happened with a well known format <cough>. The tag wasn't part of the specs, but, because some $%#$$#s insisted on using the tag, a plugin that skipped that appeared.

It all depends on the demand for such a thing... 

Regards;

Roberto.

 

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Reply #8
it's not worth the trouble i guess. libvorbis seems to happily ignore all sorts of id3 tags i put (tried with hex editor), my vorbis tag updater just eats them (burp).
Microsoft Windows: We can't script here, this is bat country.

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Reply #9
Vorbis + ID3(v2) = corrupted Vorbis stream

It will break all official tools (including, of course, ReplayGain)

--
GCP

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Reply #10
To zZzZzZz:

You are right

By the way:
MAC does not write ID3v2 tags in OGG files at all! Only reading such kind of files...

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Reply #11
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Originally posted by Case
why add ID3v2 tag support to MAC, MPC and Ogg when it isn't supported in any of those?


hmm... i use v2 with MPCs and those two things fit well in my case (using EAR plugin to read them). i know this is probably NOT the perfect match, but i don't have any distroyed files or sth.

just my 2c.

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Reply #12
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Originally posted by JohnV
*added: support for... APE tags in MPC/MPEGplus files
Yay! My last excuse for not switching to APE tags has been fixed! Thanks Mr. Faul!

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Reply #13
Indeed, thanks a lot! Happy to see this useful little program defrosted.

Uosdwis

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Reply #14
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Originally posted by seaeye

hmm... i use v2 with MPCs and those two things fit well in my case (using EAR plugin to read them). i know this is probably NOT the perfect match, but i don't have any distroyed files or sth.

It works because MPC developers were too kind and included support for skipping ID3v2 tag in the beginning. I think ReplayGain won't accept those files as valid MPC and that's how all programs should treat them. I hope you realize that it will never be supported officially.

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Reply #15
id3v2 is supported just as much for mpc as it is for mp3.....
It's not supported by mp3 standard either.

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Reply #16
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Originally posted by Jansemanden
id3v2 is supported just as much for mpc as it is for mp3.....
It's not supported by mp3 standard either.

ID3v2 tag is imitating MP3 frame, that's why it works with MP3s. It will not work in anyway with MPC unless decoders skip it. Frank should remove all ID3v2 detectors to demonstrate it's effect on MPC.

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Reply #17
Let's remove seatbelts and airbangs and demonstrate the power of a mercedes.

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Reply #18
just leave it as it is. if you like APE you can add it - nobody's saying 'no'.

and i'll also give APE a try.

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Reply #19
It wasn't openminded Klemm that added skipping of id3v2-tags.
Andree did....


but apart from that.....
I'm using id3v2-tags saved in tag-files so the audio-mpc file is not affected.
I WILL change to APE if my favorite tagger does.....Or another one I like does.

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Reply #20
Just some things I can't understand:

- Why to develop an own tagging format if there are some wide used (standard) tagging formats?

- Is it too hard to support alternative formats? For example, just skip well known tags?

- Why to use "built-in" tagging formats? Is it not easier to have tags at the the beginning/end?

- Do you think, ID3v2 format is not developped good enough?

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Reply #21
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Originally posted by Jansemanden
I'm using id3v2-tags saved in tag-files so the audio-mpc file is not affected.

That's smart move, that way they won't harm anyone or anything.
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I WILL change to APE if my favorite tagger does.....Or another one I like does.

You should suggest MikaelS to add support in Helium. APE 2 specs are pretty much set up and it's always possible to use APE 1 while waiting for final specs. That way Helium could also easily support Monkey's Audio.

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Reply #22
VERY interesting questions.

maybe somebody will give us right answers without burning us down 1st.

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Reply #23
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Originally posted by Case

You should suggest MikaelS to add support in Helium. APE 2 specs are pretty much set up and it's always possible to use APE 1 while waiting for final specs. That way Helium could also easily support Monkey's Audio.


I did...

he's thinking about it...
He doesn't want to spend too much time on it if it's only used by very few ppl.
We'll see.....
I'll do my part.

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Reply #24
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You should suggest MikaelS to add support in Helium. APE 2 specs are pretty much set up and it's always possible to use APE 1 while waiting for final specs. That way Helium could also easily support Monkey's Audio.


he's aware of that as far as i know.